Go back and check how many all stars were drafted at #3. Some hits, some misses. So being drafted at a high spot doesn't mean a whole lot after the fact. People are doing the same thing with smart, since was drafted high.
Now all that matters is what you see in the court. And what I see is a guy with some nice tools that is he can put it together, has a chance to be real good. Nice defensive potential as well.
Let's sit back and see what happens.
Honestly, that sounds like you're trying to make excuses for Brown, in case he doesn't pan out, since you mentioned Smart, lol
, but I'm probably wrong here, right?
And yes, obviously all that matters is what happens on the court, regardless of where a guy was picked - absolutely, it's just that I believe that, if you're picking as high as we were in the most recent draft, I'd like to think that we're getting more than a roll player, and if it turns out that way, with other guys becoming all stars, for example, then picking Brown would be a failure, to me, although I guess that my standards are unreasonably high, lol
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Having said all of that, I'm not calling, nor have I ever called, iirc, Brown a bust. The question was concerning his summer league play, and I posted my views on the matter, but as I said before summer league, can we at least give the kid some time before we condemn him, lol
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Naturally, I'm still concerned, but at the same time, I'm not going to throw him under the bus. Let's see how he does this year, and like I said, I really want him to make me eat my words. I'm trying to be optimistic, lol
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I personally don't recall many guys 6'6" or taller having 5 steals in one game as a rookie. I personally do NOT recall many rookies AVERAGING 10+ FT attempts per game in Summer League. Yes, he shot poorly, but he was fouled on MOST of those misses!!!!
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Ignore LA. He's determined to hate Brown because that's not who he wanted on draft night. He won't be convinced until Brown starts dropping 20ppg consistently. Since that won't happen this year, expect a constant stream of "he's a bust" posts from him all year long.
I'm not sure how you arrived at this conclusion, given that I've repeatedly stated how I'm doing my best to embrace the pick, but I don't hate the guy, personally, or anything like that, and of course I'm not expecting him to average 20 a night, lol
. Even for me, that's ridiculous, haha
. I'm going to approach every game with an open mind in regards to Brown, and I hope that he'll show progress over the course of the season, if he ever plays, that is, but I'm not going to be posting 'he's a bust' all over the place. Perhaps you have me confused with Clench, lol
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And Smitty, sure, I'll give you the steals, that's fine, but I don't see how anyone can complain about Brown not getting more foul calls to add to games where he already had 17 free throw attempts, lol
. Whether he was fouled, or not, this problem has been evident since college, so it's nothing new. I'm also concerned about how he got most of those free throws. As someone much wiser than myself, csfansince60s, noted, Brown constantly pushes off and extends both arms to draw said contact, and if, although it's probably more like 'when', the officials catch onto that, he's always going to be in foul trouble. I'm just not sure that his ability to get to the line, as he does, will translate, so we'll have to see what happens. NBA officials regard rookies as Rodney Dangerfield, so I don't see him getting anywhere near half of the calls he got during the summer league over the course of real NBA game - at least right now, anyway.
He also lowers his shoulder on many drives, and I'm surprised that he wasn't called for many more offensive fouls, even during the summer league, and I'd expect the refs in real games to cite him for those infractions, but maybe I'm wrong
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Serious question. Did you watch Ingram? Were you impressed? Did you watch Murray? Were you impressed?
Basically, we watch our own guy with a hyper eye. We forget that many other guys in the same boat do the same things. This summer league won't determine whether he becomes a good player or not. Still plenty of growth potential.
And here is one national opinion for perspective. Clearly, many fans are too tough on their own guys.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-summer-league-rookie-rankings-brown-simmons-shine-ingram-erratic/
No, I did not watch Ingram, but I was checking the box scores during the games, and he was horrible most of the time, iirc, lol, so no, I wasn't impressed with him, either, but like you said, it's early, and I'm not passing final judgement on any of these guys.
That's not to say that I wasn't impressed by the rookies of other clubs, though. Thon Maker, Skal, McCaw, Simmons (his passing, obviously), Kay Felder, Siakam, Diallo, Brogdon, Dekker (did he play in the summer league, last year? I can't remember), Taurean Prince had his moments, although the trade process kept him out of two games so his sample size isn't the same as the other members of his class, Dejounte Murray, Poeltl, and our very own Nader all played very well, I though, although those guys are off of the top of my head matched with the stats on NBA.com, lol
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I also liked what I saw from Bentil, Jackson had his moments, even though his overall play was shockingly bad, for the most part, unfortunately
, I didn't watch Jamal Murray, but it looks like he came on strong over the last few games after royally struggling in the earlier contests, and Buddy Hield was just awful, most of the time, imo, although I'm more going off of his box scores than his play, as I only watched one half of one of his games, iirc, and it wasn't even to see him, lol
, but yeah, I'm aware of the how fans of probably every team seem to view their players as inferior to those of their competition, for the most part. Maybe it's just a natural part of fandom, lol
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