Celtics resign Tyler Zeller

[saltlover]

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

It's not your money, so I hope you'll be able to get over it.

[Ilikesports17]

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

structure of the contract increases the number. Zeller is a guy whos been in the system. You know what you can get from him and the contract gives him some value in terms of matching salaries in deals etc.

The FA market has a lot of question marks right now, and before you say it, you simply cannot count on a rookie to come in and be an NBA player. Too big a risk.

[Beat LA]

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

It's not your money, so I hope you'll be able to get over it.

Umm, okay, lol ?  Again, yeesh, tough crowd, haha.

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

structure of the contract increases the number. Zeller is a guy whos been in the system. You know what you can get from him and the contract gives him some value in terms of matching salaries in deals etc.

The FA market has a lot of question marks right now, and before you say it, you simply cannot count on a rookie to come in and be an NBA player. Too big a risk.

All players were unproven commodities at one point, you know, lol , and it's not like Zeller is somehow irreplaceable, to say the least, imo, lol , but fine, I won't offer a rookie alternative, okay, haha ?

Also, I get that the guy is familiar with our style of play, but Ainge has constantly mentioned that we need a bigger center who rebounds, among other things, none of which Zeller provides.  Sure, he's tall, but he's almost as assertive as I am, lol . He does have excellent speed, but he's not a shot blocker or passer, and his rebounding is atrocious.  I don't care if the deal was made with free agency in mind, or not.  I'd rather not have him on the roster, at all, quite honestly . Seriously, how does he help us?  Ugh.  We would have been better off signing Henry Sims, imo, who is not a rookie, btw, lol .

[Ilikesports17]

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

It's not your money, so I hope you'll be able to get over it.

Umm, okay, lol ?  Again, yeesh, tough crowd, haha.

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

structure of the contract increases the number. Zeller is a guy whos been in the system. You know what you can get from him and the contract gives him some value in terms of matching salaries in deals etc.

The FA market has a lot of question marks right now, and before you say it, you simply cannot count on a rookie to come in and be an NBA player. Too big a risk.

All players were unproven commodities at one point, you know, lol , and it's not like Zeller is somehow irreplaceable, to say the least, imo, lol , but fine, I won't offer a rookie alternative, okay, haha ?

thats the point. Rookies still are unproven. Many vets are not.

As for Sims, Im well aware he is not a rookie. I remember him from his Philly days. I dont know much about him other than that hes had a far from impressive career since that first year in Philly. Im a bit dissapointed we couldnt add a rebounder, but Zeller seems to just be a better player than Henry Sims so I dont have a problem with it.

[mctyson]

Zeller is a much more reliable end of bench piece than Sullinger.

You can put him on the bench, not in the regular rotation, and feel confident he will actually be ready to play when called upon.

Also, a center with no major injury history on an affordable psuedo-expiring deal is much easier to trade.

All of this.

In this market Zeller is close to an $8M player.  He can sit on the bench for the entire game and come in and run the floor.  There aren't many 7-footers who can do that as well as he can.

Brad wants to play with pace. Sully out, Zeller stays.  Very simple.

[Bobshot]

Sullinger is a far better rebounder. Signs for $6M with Toronto. Zeller gets $8M from Boston.
Not much value there.

[Beat LA]

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

It's not your money, so I hope you'll be able to get over it.

Umm, okay, lol ?  Again, yeesh, tough crowd, haha.

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

structure of the contract increases the number. Zeller is a guy whos been in the system. You know what you can get from him and the contract gives him some value in terms of matching salaries in deals etc.

The FA market has a lot of question marks right now, and before you say it, you simply cannot count on a rookie to come in and be an NBA player. Too big a risk.

All players were unproven commodities at one point, you know, lol , and it's not like Zeller is somehow irreplaceable, to say the least, imo, lol , but fine, I won't offer a rookie alternative, okay, haha ?

thats the point. Rookies still are unproven. Many vets are not.

As for Sims, Im well aware he is not a rookie. I remember him from his Philly days. I dont know much about him other than that hes had a far from impressive career since that first year in Philly. Im a bit dissapointed we couldnt add a rebounder, but Zeller seems to just be a better player than Henry Sims so I dont have a problem with it.

What I like about Sims is that he has a much better motor than Zeller and is a no-nonsense guy, in addition to all of the other things about him which I think make him a better player than Zeller, but oh well, lol . I figured that you knew who Sims was, btw, haha.

In regards to the unproven vs. proven debate, that's my point . There's no use drafting guys if you're never going to play them, imo, and I don't ever recall this being such an issue before recent years, so I'd like to know the origin of the argument (is this an analytics thing, again? ).  I'm not expecting you to know that, btw, lol .

[Beat LA]

Zeller is a much more reliable end of bench piece than Sullinger.

You can put him on the bench, not in the regular rotation, and feel confident he will actually be ready to play when called upon.

Also, a center with no major injury history on an affordable psuedo-expiring deal is much easier to trade.

All of this.

In this market Zeller is close to an $8M player.  He can sit on the bench for the entire game and come in and run the floor.  There aren't many 7-footers who can do that as well as he can.

Brad wants to play with pace. Sully out, Zeller stays.  Very simple.

If we wanted a rebounder (at the minimum) who runs the court like a gazelle (and who doesn't), we could have just drafted...never mind . Sigh.

[CoachBo]

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

structure of the contract increases the number. Zeller is a guy whos been in the system. You know what you can get from him and the contract gives him some value in terms of matching salaries in deals etc.

The FA market has a lot of question marks right now, and before you say it, you simply cannot count on a rookie to come in and be an NBA player. Too big a risk.

Kris Dunn says hi.

[MJohnnyboy]

I'm pretty meh on Zeller coming back, but I'm glad we got him for fair value for what he brings to the table compared to say Miles Plumlee, who basically does everything Zeller does but was given a much heftier contract. Especially considering he has to share time with 3 other guys who play his only position.

[trickybilly]

Forsberg pointing out two things:

1. Zeller becomes 4th highest player on roster
2. Move takes C's over the cap, activating the MLE.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Forsberg pointing out two things:

1. Zeller becomes 4th highest player on roster
2. Move takes C's over the cap, activating the MLE.

1. OK.

2. Pretty sure that's wrong that we go over the cap, AND we don't get an MLE. Only the Room exception.

[Ilikesports17]

I just...I can't, lol . Ugh.  What a waste of money, imo.  Dude blows.  Sigh.

structure of the contract increases the number. Zeller is a guy whos been in the system. You know what you can get from him and the contract gives him some value in terms of matching salaries in deals etc.

The FA market has a lot of question marks right now, and before you say it, you simply cannot count on a rookie to come in and be an NBA player. Too big a risk.

Kris Dunn says hi.

Good point. You are right. We should have signed Kriss Dunn in the FA market to address our need for a big.

[saltlover]

Forsberg pointing out two things:

1. Zeller becomes 4th highest player on roster
2. Move takes C's over the cap, activating the MLE.

1. OK.

2. Pretty sure that's wrong that we go over the cap, AND we don't get an MLE. Only the Room exception.

That is correct.  We used cap room to sign Horford.  No MLE.

[Beat LA]

Forsberg pointing out two things:

1. Zeller becomes 4th highest player on roster
2. Move takes C's over the cap, activating the MLE.

I'm assuming that you forgot the word 'paid', right, because now I'm thinking of who the three guys are on our team that are 'higher' than Zeller , lol . I'm thinking that James Young has to be first.  He's got to lead the team in some category, however dubious , right, lol ?