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Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #120 on: July 23, 2016, 05:17:54 PM »

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Gerald Green is a player who's had one good shooting season and one season where he shot well in limited minutes. He is a defensive liability and has off-the-court issues that, throughout his career have included immaturity, lack of work ethic/thought, and violence.

Yet, some of the same people who've been knocking Okafor are praising Green.

Welcome to the world of crazy fandom.
Gerald Green is a career 36% three point shooter. That is all.
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Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #121 on: July 23, 2016, 05:47:06 PM »

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Gerald Green is a player who's had one good shooting season and one season where he shot well in limited minutes.  He is a defensive liability and has off-the-court issues that, throughout his career have included immaturity, lack of work ethic/thought, and violence.

Yet, some of the same people who've been knocking Okafor are praising Green.

Welcome to the world of crazy fandom.

Sounds like another Jared Sullinger.


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Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #122 on: July 23, 2016, 05:51:53 PM »

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Ugh. Stevens will likely play him before brown. Ainge has to stop giving Stevens guys that he'll use to hurt players development.

Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #123 on: July 23, 2016, 05:58:03 PM »

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Ugh. Stevens will likely play him before brown. Ainge has to stop giving Stevens guys that he'll use to hurt players development.

I still think there will be plenty of minutes available to Brown if he earns them.


Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #124 on: July 23, 2016, 06:07:15 PM »

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Love this move.

Welcome Back, Gerald Green - where it all started for him.

He's a better and more matured player this time around.

Will definitely help us.

Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #125 on: July 23, 2016, 06:09:35 PM »

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Green has got great hops, transition game, and a decent 3-point shot.  Stevens will find ways to use him on the second unit.  It's not a super-exciting move, but you need solid depth on the bench, and Green gives us that.

Watch a Gerald Green video and cheer up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2pq19sc6RY

Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #126 on: July 23, 2016, 06:16:54 PM »

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I don't like this move.  Just will get in the way of playing other guys.

Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #127 on: July 23, 2016, 07:22:25 PM »

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Gerald Green is a player who's had one good shooting season and one season where he shot well in limited minutes.  He is a defensive liability and has off-the-court issues that, throughout his career have included immaturity, lack of work ethic/thought, and violence.

Yet, some of the same people who've been knocking Okafor are praising Green.

Welcome to the world of crazy fandom.

If we could sign Jahlil Okafor on a one-year vet minimum deal, I doubt those crazy fans would object.

Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #128 on: July 23, 2016, 07:41:30 PM »

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I could see the re-signing of Zeller happening, unfortunately, but Gerald Green, as well?  Ahahaha, you've outdone yourself this time, Ainge.  Sushi in a car?  Oh boy! ::) ;D

Seriously, though, it looks like he's developed a nice turnaround and fadeaway jumper and another post move or two and he can come off of picks plus his athleticism, of course, but I don't think that he plays much, if any, defense.  In 2012, the Pacers signed him, and with the injury to Danny Granger, Green, in theory, was supposed to be the backup for Paul George, iirc.  Yeah, not so much. 

After starting the first 3 games of the year, he was replaced by Sam Young, lol, who was then replaced by Lance Stephenson after, again, 3 games, and it wasn't until December that he started again for two games, and probably because Stephenson was out for those two contests.  Other than that, he only started 2 more games over the rest of the season, with the last one being against the 76ers, where Vogel presumably rested George.  Green then proceeded to barely play at all during the playoffs, likely because Vogel, a defensive-minded coach, simply didn't trust him on that end of the court, and especially during crunch time.  Overall, when he wasn't starting, Gerald averaged 16.3 mpg, 6.1 ppg, 2.2 rpg, and 0.9 apg on .343 fg%, .291 from 3, and .848 from the line in 53 games off of the bench.

Now let's examine his season with the Heat last year.  While he did start 14 games for Miami, he played 55 of them in a reserve capacity, averaging 8.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, and 0.7 apg in 20.9 mpg, on .393 fg% (which is better than his .388 fg% as a starter), .327 from 3, and .797 from the line.  What's important, though, is that once Joe Johnson signed with them, and injuries finally forced Spoelstra (again, another defensive-minded coach) to play rookie Josh Richardson, who quickly became a key cog of their team, while Green averaged just 9.9 mpg over 10 contests in March, and 17 mpg to wind things up in April, a number which was obviously skewed by his starting 2 of those 7 contests.  Once again, like Vogel, Spoelstra hardly used Green in the playoffs, aside from game 3 of the conference finals, where he inexplicably used Gerald for 20:58 over Winslow(was he hurt, or something?  I can't remember, although I don't think that that was the case, but I'm probably wrong, here, so feel free to correct me, lol ;D), who didn't even play, in that crucial contest.  Not surprisingly, the Heat lost, 95-91, although the loss of Whiteside obviously had much more of an impact on that game, as well as the series, than Gerald's performance.  Still, Green did not play in games 4 or 6, and only managed to get on the floor for a combined 13:29 in games 5 and 7.

My point being, if Vogel and Spoelstra didn't trust him when it mattered the most, why would Stevens, a defensive-minded coach, himself, buck the trend?  This move makes absolutely no sense, imo, unless of course Green can replace James Young's hairdos, lol, if the latter is even on the team, which I really hope won't be the case.  Just give Hunter those minutes, instead.  I get the whole 'if he's good enough he'll earn them' thing, but this also applies to Brown, as well, and since Stevens has absolutely no interest in player development, imo, why should we believe that he'll play a rookie, 3rd pick in the draft or not, not to mention a 2nd year player to be in Hunter, over a veteran like Green?  If Ainge had wanted another shooter off of the bench, he should have kept the 31st pick and taken Malcolm Brogdon, imo, who impacts the game in ways that Green simply cannot.  Ugh. 

Of course, he also could have looked into undrafted guys like Danuel House and Jarrod Uthoff, to name a couple, but let's not open that can of worms, lol ;D. Sigh.

Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #129 on: July 23, 2016, 07:48:43 PM »

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This move along with the Zeller signing is a sign no trade is happening at this present time. What it says is Ainge signed two players who add depth now and also are depth if a deal comes down later. Ainge isn't sitting around waiting for a deal without covering all basis along the way.

Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #130 on: July 23, 2016, 08:00:38 PM »

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Of course, he also could have looked into undrafted guys like Danuel House and Jarrod Uthoff, to name a couple, but let's not open that can of worms, lol ;D. Sigh.
Rookies are inherently risky. Especially undrafted guys. You can count on Green to come in hit some 3s and add athleticism to the squad. He signed to the vet min for 1 year, I dont understand how some people hate the signing so much.

Ideally he rides the bench as Jaylen Brown commands the backup 3 role.
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Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #131 on: July 23, 2016, 08:05:17 PM »

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This move along with the Zeller signing is a sign no trade is happening at this present time. What it says is Ainge signed two players who add depth now and also are depth if a deal comes down later. Ainge isn't sitting around waiting for a deal without covering all basis along the way.

No trade?

Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #132 on: July 23, 2016, 08:10:11 PM »

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Gerald Green is a player who's had one good shooting season and one season where he shot well in limited minutes.  He is a defensive liability and has off-the-court issues that, throughout his career have included immaturity, lack of work ethic/thought, and violence.

Yet, some of the same people who've been knocking Okafor are praising Green.

Welcome to the world of crazy fandom.

You've been here quite awhile. You remember how upset posters were when he was traded to Minny? LOL.

I don't pay attention to career scrubs in the league, so maybe Green can play a little defense and maybe he won't go brain-dead on the floor all the time.

We'll just have to see.
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Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #133 on: July 23, 2016, 08:11:11 PM »

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Does anyone know when Green can be used in a trade? Is it after February? Or can he be traded immediately?
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Re: Celtics sign Gerald green
« Reply #134 on: July 23, 2016, 08:15:09 PM »

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A lot of hate for a guy that gives you the same offense type plays as Crowder that we praised Crowder for. Hit the open J or drive. And he is going to be doing it for us for the min. It's a solid signing. If he played better D he would be make 8-10 million per.