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Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2016, 03:55:15 PM »

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I love brown, but Crowder will likely be way better this year, and probably next year too



Crowder is legit





I would, however, love it if brown steps in and kills it immediately. Probably not going to happen just yet
I trust Danny Ainge

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2016, 04:03:19 PM »

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Hasn't even played a minute in a real NBA game and people are already asking this? Let's see if he can take Hunter's 3 minutes at least. I know he is going to get a shot like the rookies from last season before him but it doesn't mean he won't be riding the pine like they were, #3 or not I can't see CBS forcing him if he's hurting us.

Jaylen Brown > young and hunter combined during SL

You can clearly tell brown is a top 5 talent vs these 2nd round talents


Triboy, believe me, I want Brown to be so good that he supplants Jae but I want that for any player, I want the best out on the floor as much as possible. Now, there have been players that perform far better than Brown in SL who aren't good enough in the NBA to even be a backup to Jae so that argument doesn't sway anything. Rozier had a pretty good SL last season and it was probably better than Smart's SL in the games he played in both seasons, how did that help him when it came to getting minutes last season?

I'm not saying Brown can't/won't do it but SL doesn't mean much at all. He will probably get more leeway because he's a #3 pick but again, not at the detriment of the team.

I'm going to do what I always do, hope for the best and not assume it's a given. I think Brown will be better than Hunter season one but it doesn't mean it will happen. Look at how well Mickey performed in SL last season, he was clearly among the best, he still wasn't deemed good enough to get minutes. It wasn't that they said he wasn't good enough to play, he just wasn't a better option in CBS' opinion (no matter how much I wanted to see him out there).

It's just rare for a pick so high to be on a good team with such a good player already on the team at their position. Usually a pick like Brown would get plenty opportunity to show that they deserve to start (usually it's automatic start) but Brown has a tough road ahead if he is going to prove to be worthy of a shot at Jae's spot (if healthy).
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Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2016, 04:26:34 PM »

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Crowder was a borderline all star before he got hurt.
He came back too soon from his injury.

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2016, 07:59:02 PM »

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Only if Crowder gets injured.

Seriously, Crowder is a top 10 SF in the league and I'd be very surprised if Brown is able to surpass him in year one.

Top 10 SFs:
Lebron
Kawhi
Durant
George
Hayward
Melo
Batum
Crowder
Giannis
Parsons

Honorable mention is Barnes. Did I snub anyone?

There's a clear top 4 there, but I think Crowder holds his own with any of the rest.  FWIW, by RPM Crowder was 5th, behind your top 4.

I'd be very pleasantly surprised if Brown was half as good as Crowder this year.  If he is, you play him alongside Crowder.  Don't worry about what position they slot into, play your best players.

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2016, 08:09:00 PM »

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I for one am extremely happy that brown will play behind crowder and learn from him for 3 or so years.  What a great guy to learn from!  Brown will come into his own as he learns and ages but not year 1 or 2 for sure. 
I'd love to have crowder tutor him and then as Jae ages become Hondo off the bench.

All good!

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2016, 08:19:20 PM »

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He could but it is not likely he does folks.  It is possible but improbable.

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2016, 08:23:19 PM »

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The way Jaylen starts out might shake things up a bit.   If he truly looks like a project, we probably stand pat through the season.   But if he comes out gangbusters, I could see Ainge making a deal to clear out a starting spot for him.   AB is the most likely candidate, in my opinion.   

Should Brown exceed expectations, I could see him winning the starting 2 job alongside Crowder.  Those two seem to compliment well.   Crowded the catch and shoot guy, Brown the playmaker.  Insert Smart and all the sudden we can go small with switchable parts all over the place.

Brown is looking at the opportunity of a lifetime, with these Boston Celtics.   That said, if he doesn't impress this year, I could see us burying him a la James Young and keeping the 17' BKL pick to replace him. 

It's on him.  How good can he be?   

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2016, 08:39:16 PM »

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Crowder starts.  He has proven he can play at a starter level.  If Brown plays at that level too, great, he will add some punch to the bench.  I doubt Brown will play that well his first season though.  Eventually yes but not that soon.  If Brown plays so well that the "problem" is who to start, it is a nice problem to have.

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2016, 08:46:38 PM »

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Brown hasn't played one NBA game yet. You might be jumping the gun a bit.

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2016, 09:09:00 PM »

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The way Jaylen starts out might shake things up a bit.   If he truly looks like a project, we probably stand pat through the season.   But if he comes out gangbusters, I could see Ainge making a deal to clear out a starting spot for him.   AB is the most likely candidate, in my opinion.   

Should Brown exceed expectations, I could see him winning the starting 2 job alongside Crowder.  Those two seem to compliment well.   Crowded the catch and shoot guy, Brown the playmaker.  Insert Smart and all the sudden we can go small with switchable parts all over the place.

Brown is looking at the opportunity of a lifetime, with these Boston Celtics.   That said, if he doesn't impress this year, I could see us burying him a la James Young and keeping the 17' BKL pick to replace him. 

It's on him.  How good can he be?   
You are saying he is only going to level out at James young???

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2016, 09:53:59 PM »

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The way Jaylen starts out might shake things up a bit.   If he truly looks like a project, we probably stand pat through the season.   But if he comes out gangbusters, I could see Ainge making a deal to clear out a starting spot for him.   AB is the most likely candidate, in my opinion.   

Should Brown exceed expectations, I could see him winning the starting 2 job alongside Crowder.  Those two seem to compliment well.   Crowded the catch and shoot guy, Brown the playmaker.  Insert Smart and all the sudden we can go small with switchable parts all over the place.

Brown is looking at the opportunity of a lifetime, with these Boston Celtics.   That said, if he doesn't impress this year, I could see us burying him a la James Young and keeping the 17' BKL pick to replace him. 

It's on him.  How good can he be?   
You are saying he is only going to level out at James young???

No, I said IF.

He's the biggest risk / reward player in the lotto.  My point is that Danny probably won't have patience for a Young-esque development curve.   He's easily replaceable by the BKL 2017 pick. 

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2016, 10:06:01 PM »

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No way brown becomes young
Even if he doesnt become a star he still is much valuable on other aspects
Like defense

He would at least be a good bench player
Young seems more of a bust at this point

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2016, 10:16:59 PM »

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Browns shooting percentages in Summer league

FG%  3%    FT%
30.7  27.2   68.7

Don't think he'll be challenging for Jae's starting spot this year.

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2016, 10:27:14 PM »

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No chance, only if we are in developing young guys mode, and I doubt it.  Jae is what he is and I don't see his value being diminished if Brown plays great.  I think everyone knows what Crowder is at this point.

Re: Crowder vs Brown
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2016, 10:40:16 PM »

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The way Jaylen starts out might shake things up a bit.   If he truly looks like a project, we probably stand pat through the season.   But if he comes out gangbusters, I could see Ainge making a deal to clear out a starting spot for him.   AB is the most likely candidate, in my opinion.   

Should Brown exceed expectations, I could see him winning the starting 2 job alongside Crowder.  Those two seem to compliment well.   Crowded the catch and shoot guy, Brown the playmaker.  Insert Smart and all the sudden we can go small with switchable parts all over the place.

Brown is looking at the opportunity of a lifetime, with these Boston Celtics.   That said, if he doesn't impress this year, I could see us burying him a la James Young and keeping the 17' BKL pick to replace him. 

It's on him.  How good can he be?   
You are saying he is only going to level out at James young???

No, I said IF.

He's the biggest risk / reward player in the lotto.  My point is that Danny probably won't have patience for a Young-esque development curve.   He's easily replaceable by the BKL 2017 pick.

Pretty sure Bender, Thon, and Chriss are a few players who are more risk/reward than Jaylen. Especially Bender. He's the biggest risk/reward
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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