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Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2016, 02:49:00 PM »

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Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2016, 02:52:13 PM »

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Still getting a kick out of people who have written off a 20 year old who had per-36 numbers of 21 points, 8.4 rebounds, 1.4 blocks and 51% shooting in his first season.

He's finished!  He might as well retire!  lol

Anyways... hopefully James Young can show enough improvement in year 3 to get some bench minutes.  Kid still might have potential.  A lot of us are crossing our fingers that 25 year old Kelly Olynyk will make a leap this season.

Glad I could return the favour and make you chuckle, considering the countless laughs I got out of your braindead drivel over the years.

But yeah, hyperbole and stats out of context, as usual.

What exactly is hyperbolic about what he said?  Kid is more than capable of scoring and he's only 20!  He fufills two things we desperately need, a center who can score.  We don't want Okafor today, we want him yesterday!

Wow, some people on this board...smh...

Amen

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Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2016, 02:59:52 PM »

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Still getting a kick out of people who have written off a 20 year old who had per-36 numbers of 21 points, 8.4 rebounds, 1.4 blocks and 51% shooting in his first season.

He's finished!  He might as well retire!  lol

Anyways... hopefully James Young can show enough improvement in year 3 to get some bench minutes.  Kid still might have potential.  A lot of us are crossing our fingers that 25 year old Kelly Olynyk will make a leap this season.

Hopefully on someone else's bench, lol ;D.
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But remember it is a very good thing that people are down on Okafor and belive that he is incapable of improving. That is how and why we will end up getting him. I bled for Myles Turner and tried to explain that he was undervalued, but people were too focused on how the 18year old ran lol, now he has exploded and the same people that said he ran funny now say he is an unbelievable athlete.

Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2016, 03:10:35 PM »

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Still getting a kick out of people who have written off a 20 year old who had per-36 numbers of 21 points, 8.4 rebounds, 1.4 blocks and 51% shooting in his first season.

He's finished!  He might as well retire!  lol

Anyways... hopefully James Young can show enough improvement in year 3 to get some bench minutes.  Kid still might have potential.  A lot of us are crossing our fingers that 25 year old Kelly Olynyk will make a leap this season.

Glad I could return the favour and make you chuckle, considering the countless laughs I got out of your braindead drivel over the years.

But yeah, hyperbole and stats out of context, as usual.

What exactly is hyperbolic about what he said?  Kid is more than capable of scoring and he's only 20!  He fufills two things we desperately need, a center who can score.  We don't want Okafor today, we want him yesterday!

Wow, some people on this board...smh...

Amen

18 brooklyn pick and a few guards not named Bradley or smart
Philly stats are borderline meaningless. They were trash and trash teams need someone to score, but then thats countered with they were trash and the lack of spacing etc makes it hard for a post guy to score. He was efficient, then that gets countered, with he was the only offensively talented guy on the roster so they built the offense around him. His awful awful advanced stats can be once again countered with how trash that team was. Stats are meaningless. I dont care that he put up 21 and 8 per 36.

With Jahlil, I think you have to look at this skills and talent and then try to almost evaluate him as a draft pick. What is his talent? How will these skills translate to the non-Philly NBA? How much can he develop? Does he have the right mental makeup to improve?

The hyperbole is that people are saying "He's finished!  He might as well retire!" very few are saying this.
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Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2016, 03:23:41 AM »

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Still getting a kick out of people who have written off a 20 year old who had per-36 numbers of 21 points, 8.4 rebounds, 1.4 blocks and 51% shooting in his first season.

He's finished!  He might as well retire!  lol

Anyways... hopefully James Young can show enough improvement in year 3 to get some bench minutes.  Kid still might have potential.  A lot of us are crossing our fingers that 25 year old Kelly Olynyk will make a leap this season.

Glad I could return the favour and make you chuckle, considering the countless laughs I got out of your braindead drivel over the years.

But yeah, hyperbole and stats out of context, as usual.

What exactly is hyperbolic about what he said?  Kid is more than capable of scoring and he's only 20!  He fufills two things we desperately need, a center who can score.  We don't want Okafor today, we want him yesterday!

Wow, some people on this board...smh...

There are a lot of people on this board who will have egg on their face when Okafor blossoms. Hopefully Ainge is smart enough that he blossoms in green - but I wonder.

I'm hopeful that DA can get the right package together to pull it off and then bring McHale in as a big man coach. DA did offer him a job, and McHale said he wouldn't mind being back in Boston.

The hyperbole thing is, well, BS. Yeah he played on a bad team that could inflate numbers, but he also played on a bad team that wasn't trying to win. So who knows how much he was being held back in either playing time, or coaching. I think he's a better passer than some give credit for. Hard to get assists when you don't have anyone that can shoot on your team. I think Stevens can make a legit player out of this kid and Horford would be a great mentor for him.
I think all of us Celt fans are hopeful DA can pull it off, but I'm not counting on it.  If I'm Philly, I look for more than a draft pick or a questionable prospect like Marcus Smart.  Minimally, they need established borderline star talent if they move a prospect like Okafor. 

But I do commend the work done to deteriorate Okafor's perceived value.  It seems to have worked on this fan base.  Unfortunately, I'm not certain the Colangelos are that stupid.
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Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2016, 03:35:04 AM »

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Still getting a kick out of people who have written off a 20 year old who had per-36 numbers of 21 points, 8.4 rebounds, 1.4 blocks and 51% shooting in his first season.

He's finished!  He might as well retire!  lol

Anyways... hopefully James Young can show enough improvement in year 3 to get some bench minutes.  Kid still might have potential.  A lot of us are crossing our fingers that 25 year old Kelly Olynyk will make a leap this season.

Glad I could return the favour and make you chuckle, considering the countless laughs I got out of your braindead drivel over the years.

But yeah, hyperbole and stats out of context, as usual.


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Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2016, 04:02:49 AM »

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Still getting a kick out of people who have written off a 20 year old who had per-36 numbers of 21 points, 8.4 rebounds, 1.4 blocks and 51% shooting in his first season.

He's finished!  He might as well retire!  lol

Anyways... hopefully James Young can show enough improvement in year 3 to get some bench minutes.  Kid still might have potential.  A lot of us are crossing our fingers that 25 year old Kelly Olynyk will make a leap this season.

Glad I could return the favour and make you chuckle, considering the countless laughs I got out of your braindead drivel over the years.

But yeah, hyperbole and stats out of context, as usual.

What exactly is hyperbolic about what he said?  Kid is more than capable of scoring and he's only 20!  He fufills two things we desperately need, a center who can score.  We don't want Okafor today, we want him yesterday!

Wow, some people on this board...smh...

There are a lot of people on this board who will have egg on their face when Okafor blossoms. Hopefully Ainge is smart enough that he blossoms in green - but I wonder.

I'm hopeful that DA can get the right package together to pull it off and then bring McHale in as a big man coach. DA did offer him a job, and McHale said he wouldn't mind being back in Boston.

The hyperbole thing is, well, BS. Yeah he played on a bad team that could inflate numbers, but he also played on a bad team that wasn't trying to win. So who knows how much he was being held back in either playing time, or coaching. I think he's a better passer than some give credit for. Hard to get assists when you don't have anyone that can shoot on your team. I think Stevens can make a legit player out of this kid and Horford would be a great mentor for him.
I think all of us Celt fans are hopeful DA can pull it off, but I'm not counting on it.  If I'm Philly, I look for more than a draft pick or a questionable prospect like Marcus Smart.  Minimally, they need established borderline star talent if they move a prospect like Okafor. 

But I do commend the work done to deteriorate Okafor's perceived value.  It seems to have worked on this fan base.  Unfortunately, I'm not certain the Colangelos are that stupid.
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IMO adding Okafor would open the floor up even more and take pressure off our players playing on the perimeter. We do not need to run an offense through Okafor but having a legit big man that can not only dribble and pass out of the post to hit a perimeter shooter but also has the ability to score quickly; should help our offense and give our shooters much better looks from 3.Basically our 3 pointers should increase in efficiency and made field goals.

Also IMO Okafor will have a much improved shot, left hand, and overall defensive ability because of his year of experience. While physically maturing and getting not only stronger but more conditioned, Okafor would be a giant for us and just as dominant as any player we posses. The signs are there....again this is IMO, but I didn't do too bad with Myles Turner or Brandon Ingram.

Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2016, 04:10:16 AM »

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Another season of hoping I fall asleep and the trade deadline magically passes by while I sleep. It can't come fast enough. I feel that way whether we trade or not, I just wanna know that who I'm cheering for will be there until the next deadline.
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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2016, 04:17:17 AM »

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Another season of hoping I fall asleep and the trade deadline magically passes by while I sleep. It can't come fast enough. I feel that way whether we trade or not, I just wanna know that who I'm cheering for will be there until the next deadline.
I think most likely the roster you see now is the roster you'll be rooting for after the trade deadline.  Saving the picks and hoping for the best might be the best play here.  But I wouldn't rule out seeing us somehow grab a Philly big before the season starts... and I wouldn't rule out making a big trade at the deadline for a guy heading into free agency.  Anything could happen.

Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2016, 05:57:59 AM »

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Another season of hoping I fall asleep and the trade deadline magically passes by while I sleep. It can't come fast enough. I feel that way whether we trade or not, I just wanna know that who I'm cheering for will be there until the next deadline.
I think most likely the roster you see now is the roster you'll be rooting for after the trade deadline.  Saving the picks and hoping for the best might be the best play here.  But I wouldn't rule out seeing us somehow grab a Philly big before the season starts... and I wouldn't rule out making a big trade at the deadline for a guy heading into free agency.  Anything could happen.

Yep. The "anything can happen" is the problem. When the deadline passes a trade can't happen. Come on down deadline!! I definitely worry more about this because of this site and others. I still enjoy it somewhat otherwise I would just stop reading some of this stuff!  ;D
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Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2016, 07:29:51 AM »

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It was only about 18 months ago that Okafor and Towns were battling for possible #1 pick.  We now know that the right guy went #1, but that doesn't mean Okafor hasn't shown some good skills that translate to the NBA game.  Clearly he has some issues, but at the right price I would go get him.  He would "make the Celtics better", a phrase that DA has used on many occasions.

We don't know that.   We're one year into two careers.  Let's give them time.  That said, I would have taken Towns for sure at #1!
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« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2016, 01:08:13 PM »

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It was only about 18 months ago that Okafor and Towns were battling for possible #1 pick.  We now know that the right guy went #1, but that doesn't mean Okafor hasn't shown some good skills that translate to the NBA game.  Clearly he has some issues, but at the right price I would go get him.  He would "make the Celtics better", a phrase that DA has used on many occasions.

We don't know that.   We're one year into two careers.  Let's give them time.  That said, I would have taken Towns for sure at #1!
Yes we do.  Let's agree to disagree.

yeah, we don't.  porzingas could be better than both!
so porzingas has potential but okafor doesn't ?

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« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2016, 01:13:00 PM »

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It was only about 18 months ago that Okafor and Towns were battling for possible #1 pick.  We now know that the right guy went #1, but that doesn't mean Okafor hasn't shown some good skills that translate to the NBA game.  Clearly he has some issues, but at the right price I would go get him.  He would "make the Celtics better", a phrase that DA has used on many occasions.

We don't know that.   We're one year into two careers.  Let's give them time.  That said, I would have taken Towns for sure at #1!
Yes we do.  Let's agree to disagree.

yeah, we don't.  porzingas could be better than both!
so porzingas has potential but okafor doesn't ?
not quite the zero sum you posit here, perhaps. i think the real point is the porzingas projects, right now, to be better than oakfur. both can develop, but porzingas is, and probably will be, the better player.
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Re: jahlil-okafor-trade-rumors
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2016, 01:39:40 PM »

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It was only about 18 months ago that Okafor and Towns were battling for possible #1 pick.  We now know that the right guy went #1, but that doesn't mean Okafor hasn't shown some good skills that translate to the NBA game.  Clearly he has some issues, but at the right price I would go get him.  He would "make the Celtics better", a phrase that DA has used on many occasions.

We don't know that.   We're one year into two careers.  Let's give them time.  That said, I would have taken Towns for sure at #1!
Yes we do.  Let's agree to disagree.

yeah, we don't.  porzingas could be better than both!
so porzingas has potential but okafor doesn't ?

I think it's fair to say porzingas has stronger potential to be a dynamic player. i seriously doubt there's a single NBA GM who would take Okafor if given the option of either....
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« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2016, 02:11:35 PM »

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It was only about 18 months ago that Okafor and Towns were battling for possible #1 pick.  We now know that the right guy went #1, but that doesn't mean Okafor hasn't shown some good skills that translate to the NBA game.  Clearly he has some issues, but at the right price I would go get him.  He would "make the Celtics better", a phrase that DA has used on many occasions.

We don't know that.   We're one year into two careers.  Let's give them time.  That said, I would have taken Towns for sure at #1!
Yes we do.  Let's agree to disagree.

yeah, we don't.  porzingas could be better than both!
so porzingas has potential but okafor doesn't ?

I think it's fair to say porzingas has stronger potential to be a dynamic player. i seriously doubt there's a single NBA GM who would take Okafor if given the option of either....
The actual comparison here was Okafor to Towns, but if you want to compare Porzingas to Towns, I take Towns right now.  However, it would not surprise me if GM's are much more split on that choice than Okafor/Towns.