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Re: Get Westbrook! Or no? / Westbrook needs to be a main target now
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2016, 03:06:17 PM »

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Probably have to ship IT out to do it, I can't see those two coexisting well.

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« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2016, 03:06:37 PM »

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He would have to agree to an extension as KG did in 2007

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« Reply #62 on: July 04, 2016, 03:08:01 PM »

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If Westbrook verbally agreed to an extension, I would be thrilled to have him here. He may not fit in Brad Steven's system as well as Durant did, and we would be taking the chance that if we brought in Westbrook, Durant may or may not sign due to how inefficient their chemistry as teammates are.
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« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2016, 03:08:05 PM »

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The Celts still need to get that top 10 guy to have a shot at the Finals.  Westy is that.

If he's available for, say, Thomas, Jerebko, filler, and a BRK pick, you'd have to do it. 


Westbrook - Bradley - Crowder - Horford - Amir

Smart, Rozier, Brown, Olynyk, Mickey


That team could have a shot to make the Finals.
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« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2016, 03:09:28 PM »

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The Celts still need to get that top 10 guy to have a shot at the Finals.  Westy is that.

If he's available for, say, Thomas, Jerebko, filler, and a BRK pick, you'd have to do it. 


Westbrook - Bradley - Crowder - Horford - Amir

Smart, Rozier, Brown, Olynyk, Mickey


That team could have a shot to make the Finals.

Problem is, will Westbrook stay after this season? If not, then there's no point in selling the farm for him.
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« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2016, 03:10:54 PM »

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Probably have to ship IT out to do it, I can't see those two coexisting well.

That isn't even a choice as I see it, I would choose Westbrook in a heartbeat.

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« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2016, 03:16:25 PM »

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The Celts still need to get that top 10 guy to have a shot at the Finals.  Westy is that.

If he's available for, say, Thomas, Jerebko, filler, and a BRK pick, you'd have to do it. 


Westbrook - Bradley - Crowder - Horford - Amir

Smart, Rozier, Brown, Olynyk, Mickey


That team could have a shot to make the Finals.

Problem is, will Westbrook stay after this season? If not, then there's no point in selling the farm for him.

you'd still have another BRK coming.

it's true, that's a big risk to take, but you gotta take some risks to get a superstar.
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« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2016, 03:21:41 PM »

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I don't want Westbrook on this team. Just keep plugging along. How you going to bash the guy and say he's the reason Durant should leave then want him on the team? Don't be a hypocritical sports fan...

All along I've said I love both KD AND Westbrook and would want both of them- just not together. There's a difference...

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« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2016, 03:35:25 PM »

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What if you keep IT and do Smart, Brown and one Nets pick? Specifically Smart, AJ, Hunter, Brown and Nets 2018 pick for Westbrook.

Westbrook, AB, Crowder, Hordford, KO
IT six man.

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« Reply #69 on: July 04, 2016, 03:36:55 PM »

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What if you keep IT and do Smart, Brown and one Nets pick? Specifically Smart, AJ, Hunter, Brown and Nets 2018 pick for Westbrook.

Westbrook, AB, Crowder, Hordford, KO
IT six man.

Haha see the poll I just made! If he extends or at least promises to give us the first shot next year at re-signing him, then you almost have to do it.

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« Reply #70 on: July 04, 2016, 04:09:24 PM »

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Probably have to ship IT out to do it, I can't see those two coexisting well.

That isn't even a choice as I see it, I would choose Westbrook in a heartbeat.

As a player absolutely, but the contract situation complicates things a bit.  Still would go for it depending on what's required on top of IT.

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« Reply #71 on: July 04, 2016, 04:16:07 PM »

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Probably have to ship IT out to do it, I can't see those two coexisting well.

That isn't even a choice as I see it, I would choose Westbrook in a heartbeat.

Of course you would. Ship out the one guy that actually loves Boston and tries to help recruit for it. That's the problem with the NBA. Win at all costs.

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« Reply #72 on: July 04, 2016, 04:16:54 PM »

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He's super overrated IMO.  He would be a bad fit in our system.  He's basically Rondo if Rondo took 20+ shots per night.  He's not a bad player by any means, but he's a ball dominating chucker who shoots 29% from three. 

Gonna be interesting to see if OKC can even make the playoffs without Durant carrying them.
Pretty simplistic way of looking at things really.  I mean Russ averaged  23.5 points, 10.4 assists, and 7.8 rebounds per game.  For good measure he threw in 2 steals.  His TS% was 55.4 and he scored at a rate of 1.3 points per shot with a PER of 27.6.  He would have led Boston in points, assists, and steals and would have been second only to Sullinger in rebounds.  This from a 6'3" PG. 

To acquire him, Thomas would have to be traded (in the trade for Westbrook makes sense to me).  I'd happily trade Thomas, 2018 Brooklyn, and some other assets for him.  The only real concern is losing Westbrook next summer.
Actually, I think quoting those stats is a pretty simplistic way of looking at things.

Points 23.5 - Sure... but he shot 42% and 29% from three doing it.  Negative

Assists:  10.4 - That's nice, but he had the HIGHEST usage rate in the league and his assist-to-turnover ratio wasn't even in the top 25. 

Rebounds:  7.8: - Ask me again if I care about my point guard getting a lot of rebounds. 

TS%:  55.4%: So, 123rd in the league then?  Uhh... ok. 

Yes, if we let him have a Rondonian hold over the offense, he'd continue to rack up tons of inflated statistics.  But that's not the style of play Brad Stevens runs.  We had a Top 5 offense last year because we operate under a pace-and-space offense that puts a priority on shooting.   Westbrook isn't a good shooter and he requires the ball to be effective.  And his efficiency took a hit when Durant sat out the majority of the 2014-15 season (42% shooting).   Furthermore, it's debatable how much he even helps that team win.  When he himself missed a large chunk of time in 2013-14, Durant's efficiency wasn't impacted at all.  He actually flourished without Westbrook.  The team went 26-11 (their typical win pace) and Durant was incredible with the opportunity to control the ball more without Westbrook stinking up the joint.  When Durant missed time, the Thunder were a borderline .500 team.

He's an ok player.  He's a bad fit here, though.  And I suspect he's going to get exposed soon as being overrated.  All-star?  Sure.  Super-star?  No.

Re: Get Westbrook! Or no? / Westbrook needs to be a main target now
« Reply #73 on: July 04, 2016, 04:18:59 PM »

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Ainge isn't trading for Westbrook. lol You guys can talk about it tho.

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« Reply #74 on: July 04, 2016, 04:24:14 PM »

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I think losing Durrant makes it easier to trade Westbrook. If Presti knows Westbrook is gone then why watch two superstars leave with getting zero return? Plus fans may understand better with Durrant gone.