« Reply #68 on: July 01, 2016, 06:03:34 PM »
The concept that people don't like Horford, or think he isn't a max player, is frankly absurd. Pick your advanced stat, and Horford is top-100 all-time. Furthermore, his 2015-2016 numbers were all pretty much at or above his career averages. He played 76 games two years ago, and every game last year.
PER: Career 19.1, 91st all-time
BPM: Career 3.0, 66th all-time
Win Shares/48 min: Career .157, 70th all-time
Offensive rating: Career 113.9, 69th all-time
Defensive BPM: Career 2.2 , 53rd all-time
eFG%: Career .543, 35th all-time
TS%: Career .570, 70th all-time
Block rate: Career 2.8, 78th all-time
His rebounds have declined the past three years. That is undeniable. Part of it is probably age, but part of it also is probably scheme, as that decline occurred both suddenly, and also with the arrival of a coach who de-emphasizes rebounds (Hawks were last in rebounding last year I think), as well as another plus rebounder in Millsap. But even with the decline is rebounds, which might be overstated, Horford is playing at an All-Star level, and is someone who has had a borderline Hall of Fame career to date. At the same, he's got the reputation of being a great teammate and person.
With or without Durant, Horford is someone actually deserving of the max salary, and the Celtics would be lucky to get him. Atlanta is being foolish letting him consider his alternatives.
TP. It's amazing how irrationally picky fans of a team with such a lack of pure talent can be.
Good for you jp. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. The next step is probably to work on the I rrationality. Then move on to changing being picky as a way to dismiss insightful stats that go against your assumptions.
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