Boston has a great tradition of discourse and honesty. William James once called it the "conversation capital of America." Look: "fireworks" were promised. And none were delivered. Brown is consistent with the type of player Danny has been drafting for years - the great majority of whom haven't panned out. Shooting translates. Danny has drafted a bunch of non shooters.
Great, you're waving a flag for management. Whoa! And maybe you have some valid points. But - maybe those who think management is not doing a great job have valid points also.
How do you contribute to the great Bostonian tradition of conversation and discourse by calling those who hold a different opinion "ignorant," or "mean." That's teenager talk. Don't strike out at other people merely because you disagree. Be willing to listen.
I'm all for being convinced that this team will be great next year. Explain to me why Smart will develop next year. Tell me how Brown is NBA ready. Point out how a pure shooter like Hield at 3 will prove unnecessary. But don't call me childish names because you have a different opinion.
Not only does it cause me to lose respect for you - it leads me to wonder whether all those who support management have a similarly limited capacity to reason as to leave nothing but resort to insults. In simple terms: your ad hominem attacks dishonor both yourself, and your arguments.
really?
I mean the Celtics are in a great position. The Nets trade was a bona fide robbery. The Jae Crowder Isaiah Thomas and Avery Bradley contracts are all golden and signing and then extending Brad Stevens was brilliant. Furthermore, this is a rebuilding team that won 48 games last year then added a top 3 pick, had up to 50 mil in cap space and even if we strike out on that we were i believe the 4th youngest(number could be completely wrong Im more or less pulling it out my ass) team in the league last year and then we add what projects to be another top 10 pick in a loaded draft next year.
This is also the same management team that turned all Jefferson a number 5 pick and a ton of trash into KG and Ray Allen and won a championship.
Lets not act like those who "support management" are supporting Billy King. Also what does that even mean. Am I supporting management because I trust Ainge to make good trades and I trust that had there been a good trade available he would have made it? that seems logical. Am I supporting management when I am OK with the Brown pick because I did not think there was a clear cut BPA? Am I supporting the management when I liked the Rozier pick because the only guys who I felt might have been BPA were Bobby POrtis and RHJ and Portis I felt had a low ceiling?
This argument was directed at the original poster. I think to the extent he called those who disagreed with him "ignorant or mean," he was a discredit to those who support management. You ought to have words with him.
You bring up some worthwhile points about being a "young team." Likewise, your points about trusting Ainge to make a good trade is well taken. I would have preferred either the Okafor or Noel trade. Or I would have preferred he drafted Buddy Hield. ...we lacked shooting and leadership last year. I'm disappointed in Smart's decision-making, and I think the lack of spacing on offence is doing damage. Watching the Atlanta series, our team looked clumped up in the paint, while Atlanta was beautifully inside and outside. Who's right? I don't know. I see your point, but I think I have good points also.
Surely you can see how one could have some legitimate criticisms of Ainge, just as I can see how one could argue he is doing a good job.
Absolutely. My only problem with your post was this line.
it leads me to wonder whether all those who support management have a similarly limited capacity to reason as to leave nothing but resort to insults
Again, you worded it nicely, but the implication is clear. All those who disagree with me are probably idiots. It just came across as hypocritical to me, in what was otherwise a terrific post.
As for the good stuff. the basketball you make some interesting points, and none that Im really gonna disagree with. I was dissapointed when we took Brown.
Dissapointed. Had really hoped for a trade here.
Dunn seems much more coveted
The outside shooting was brutal but you have to remember we were without Bradley (our best shooting gaurd), basically without Olynyk (our highest percentage shooter) and Crowder's ankle rendered him more or less useless as a shooter. When a team with shooting issues basically loses 3 of its 5 best shooters its gonna be bad. However, its still an issue and one that needs to be addresses before this team really contends. I wouldnt have minded the Hield pick because I believe he will turn into a solid defender and i could easily see him becoming JJ Reddick with OK defense, but I just didnt think there was a clear enough gap between any of the 3-8 prospects to have a serious issue with brown and with his athleticism and work ethic I think his ceiling is pretty high.
Had we drafted Chriss I would have been p---ed. Everyone else would have yielded the same reaction.