Consensus among draft sites =/= Consensus among NBA team talent evaluators
Or do we need to go through every instance in this draft where the draftnik sites got it very wrong?
Skal, just to give one example, was listed as a lottery pick all the way up to the day of the draft. Deyonta Davis was regularly slotted in the 10-15 range.
Where'd they get selected?
from the thread "Jaylen Brown is the guy at 3":
He can play? Based on what?
Jaylen Brown reminds me of Tyreke Evans.
Minus the PG skills but similar build and athleticism. Scorers mindset. Ball-handling. Questionable jump-shot and shot-selection. Defensive talent. Quality rebounder. Capable passer.
What exactly is Tyreke Evans minus the point guard skills?
From the thread "Jaylen Brown our version of Lebron":
Maybe in the sense of a strong, bullish athlete with a poor jumpshot and a tendency to vacillate between single minded drives and passive off ball play.
From the thread "Grizzly Bear Blues Mock Draft Has Us Trading Up To #11 For Jaylen Brown":
I wouldn't be surprised if Jaylen falls, but all the way to 11 seems unlikely.
From the thread "Does anyone else think the #3 for okafor is completely unrealistic?":
I guess it depends on what this draft looks like closer to draft night. SOme people think it's good. Some people seem to think it's garbage.
I brought it up in another thread... some people have Jaylen Brown going 3rd and I've heard him called a poor man's Justice Winslow. Winslow went 10th last year. Does that mean the 3rd best player in this draft would have gone 11th last year?
If that's the case, I have no idea why Philly's best offer for a 20 year old big man rookie who has the potential to dominate inside... would be a player who would have been drafted 11th last year.
Okafor might actually end up better than anyone in this entire draft.
On the flip side, there's those that think a handful of months as a sitting duck in Philly has irreparably destroyed Okafor's trade value. There's those who think Philly is desperate to move him and have no leverage. There's those who think Okafor's stats were empty (as opposed to a prospect who put up worse stats on the College level) and that he has peaked at the age of 20. There's those who think he's a career loser despite being a year removed from winning a National Championship. There's those who think this team has some real gems outside of the top two picks and that PHilly might be anxious to grab one of the guards like Buddy Hield.
So who knows... it's possible.
What we do know (widely accepted outside of this forum) is that Ainge tried trading a package built around the pick for Okafor at the deadline and that according to Ainge it was close, but Philly backed out. My guess is, they backed out because of uncertainty surrounding where the pick would land. It could have fallen much further than 3rd. So perhaps now that they see it's locked in at 3rd, they'll be ready to make an actual move. On the other hand, they probably had interest in the pick because of it's potential to end up in the top 2... so now that it's not top 2, they might not have any interest at all. They could look to trade Okafor for a more established player. Despite the idea that the league is "going small", big men still have a place in this league. Star big men prospects are always going to be super valuable. And this league is littered with guards. They could just offer him up to the Suns for Bledsoe or Knight, for instance. Why settle on an unknown prospect?
This is some stretched logic. Kind of reminds me of team a beat team b so they can also beat team c type stuff. Most people don't think Brown will go third, and if someone does have him going third they certainly think he is better than poor man's justice winslow. I think right now we are just all kind of guessing cause there is a decent amount of mystery around some of the top prospects. If Philly were enamored with Murray or Dunn after seeing them workout perhaps they would trade Okafor for a number 3 picks and a small additional piece (late first). I think Okafor showed enough in his rookie year that he is probably worth the number 3 pick. I wouldn't hate it if we did a trade like this.
People need to stop pretending that Brown was not considered a reach at the time of the draft. The very same people that are crucifying LarBrd for suggesting Brown was not the clear-cut #3 best player in the draft also acknowledged the fact that Brown was a flawed player with the potential to drop beyond 3.
EDIT: This doesn't refer to this thread specifically; it's just been a common theme for the past few days that is getting kind of silly. I get that LarBrd has some crazy notions that he supports with sometimes less-than-convinvcing evidence, but the idea that Brown was not a widely-renowned ("sexy") pick at the time of selection is not one of them. The feud over minutia has made reading the forum a lot less enjoyable lately.
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