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Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #105 on: June 26, 2016, 09:13:00 AM »

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I didn't expect any "fireworks ", and I am happy with the Zizic, Bentil and Jackson selections, but I do not like the first two choices.  I am warming up to Brown as another defender if we can get a KD, but assuming no big FA I think we need to start finding alpha stars on offense.  Right now there isn't one, and the 2nd closest we have to one may be gone (Turner).
I look at it like this:

Plan A:  Do everything possible to get Durant. -  So far, I think we're doing everything right on that front.  We still have all of our flexibility, still have double-max cap space (the only team Durant is meeting with that has that ability), and still plenty of options on the trade front.   This team as-is is a plenty appealing supporting cast for KD.  With his addition alone, it would win about 60 games.  Adding another max player + making some trades will absolutely make us a championship contender.

Plan B:  A life without Durant -
At that point, who cares?  Trading #3 + #16 + Bradley + Crowder + Smart for a borderline star like Jimmy Butler isn't going to win you a championship.  That would be a really stupid move.  The best approach might be to just wait a few years to hope our guys develop into the next generation, because you aren't chasing the Golden States and Clevelands of the world by trading half the roster for a borderline allstar.   This front office/management is too smart to act like the Knicks.  If we can't land a transcendent player like Durant, patience is the only logical move.

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Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2016, 09:24:08 AM »

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Did anybody pay any attention whatsoever to the 24ish hours that were the draft?

Teague for the 12th pick. An all star for the 12th pick. That was a great trade.

OKC got a GREAT trade.

I also absolutely do not believe that there wasn't a decent trade to be had for the 3rd pick. Don't believe it. Don't come here with that.

The trade we made with the 2nds for the future first. It was decent.

Robin Lopez and Jerian Grant for D Rose is pretty good.
Your views on the OKC trade is slanted by your known love of Oladipo (an inefficient backup).  Not surprised you loved that one.  There's mixed views on that trade.  Perhaps if we had Ibaka we could have landed your binkie.  But we didn't have an Ibaka to trade.

Actually, the Utah Jazz gave up the #12 pick for George Hill, didn't they?

I guess if you believed we could have packaged #16 + #23 for George HIll, it would have helped us... but once again, it would have added 8 million in salary to our team... which kills our ability to have double-max cap space.  And George Hill, while a nice veteran who can shoot, plays a position we have a lot of talent at.

What I do agree with you on is that there had to be trades available for the #3 pick.  And I believe there are still trades available for Jaylen Brown if we choose to trade him.   But right now, the best approach was to wait until we met with Durant, maintain all our flexibility, and keep our option of offering a second max contract to a running-mate for KD.   You don't blow that opportunity to bring in a 7th guard in George Hill.

Larry Bird,

I agree with you on most everything, but you are greatly underestimating Oladipo.  He is ranked the 6th best SG in overall RPM and WINS.  He is ranked #12 in defensive RPM.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/WINS/position/2

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/2

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/2

But, as I said, I agree with you on most of your points!!

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Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #107 on: June 26, 2016, 09:33:08 AM »

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Did anybody pay any attention whatsoever to the 24ish hours that were the draft?

Teague for the 12th pick. An all star for the 12th pick. That was a great trade.

OKC got a GREAT trade.

I also absolutely do not believe that there wasn't a decent trade to be had for the 3rd pick. Don't believe it. Don't come here with that.

The trade we made with the 2nds for the future first. It was decent.

Robin Lopez and Jerian Grant for D Rose is pretty good.

Where would Teague fit in on our team? Would you be willing to give up our double max cap space for a guy who is not as good as IT and would take playing time away from our best player and from Smart and Bradley? I'm glad we didn't trade for Teague. He doesnt help our team at all.

The OKC trade was great for OKC, but as I said, what borderline all-star PF do we have to offer to Orlando, and why would we want more rookies when we were already drafting 8 players?

The Rose trade, Rose is cooked, would kill our cap, and like Teague doesnt fit our team. The Bulls were trying to give him away. On the other side, the guys we drafted thursday night are much better than Robin Lopez and Jerian Grant, and we didn't have to give up anything to get them, AND they allow us to keep our cap flexibility.

So, where are the good trades that were made that would have helped us that we missed out on?


Wait.....  a guard who shoots 36% for his career from 3, and hit at a 40% clip last season, and produced about 6 assists per game last year as well, doesn't fit the Celtics?  Really?

I don't care about the Teague situation one way or another, but come on.

NOT at the price tag.  Teague's level of play is rapidly diminishing.  Did you know he is ranked 29th in defensive RPM for last year?

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/1

I like DEFENSE.  Maybe you do NOT value it as much as I do.

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Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #108 on: June 26, 2016, 12:34:00 PM »

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Teague? Hill? Oladipo?

Sorry, but these guys are not spilt milk that's worth crying over.  We have a very strong--relatively young, with room for improvement--back court.  We don't need to give up good assets for journeymen guards who will take away development opportunities for our young guys.

Oladipo's ok, but he's not a major difference maker. 

I mean, we picked up nineteen year old kid with a man's body and star potential with the third pick in the draft.  Of course there were trades we could have made, but I'm not convinced any would have been positive for the growth of the Celtics franchise.  Obviously, neither did Danny.

DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #109 on: June 26, 2016, 03:14:24 PM »

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ehm, did I read correctly?

was larbrd's account hacked in the summer of 2015? does this mean what we were reading from him back then was written by someone else?  :o

Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #110 on: June 26, 2016, 03:36:56 PM »

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ehm, did I read correctly?

was larbrd's account hacked in the summer of 2015? does this mean what we were reading from him back then was written by someone else?  :o

Lol, that was a lousy excuse imo. It's ok to be wrong sometimes.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #111 on: June 26, 2016, 03:43:47 PM »

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Did anybody pay any attention whatsoever to the 24ish hours that were the draft?

Teague for the 12th pick. An all star for the 12th pick. That was a great trade.


I also absolutely do not believe that there wasn't a decent trade to be had for the 3rd pick. Don't believe it. Don't come here with that.

The trade we made with the 2nds for the future first. It was decent.

Robin Lopez and Jerian Grant for D Rose is pretty good.

You have no credibility after that.
I'm perfectly fine with having no credibility in your eyes. I really am.

Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #112 on: June 26, 2016, 07:14:29 PM »

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Ainge has made terrible decisions in the last couple of years via the draft and ya know he's not making attempts to really get guys.  When I see Tobias Harris gettin picked up and we miss out but attempt to sign javale McGee.  I have to question Danny's thinking. When we needed a SF last year, we pick a point guard.  We trade up for jelly olynyk and let gorgi deng go even though we need a rebounder.

His trading has been decent but now it's caught up with him.  He no longer has stars to attach to the picks to move them and GM's aren't interested in ainge and his cat and mouse games.  Teams are trying to get better.  Ainge and whc just wanna save some [dang] money.

The way I see it, we are one of 6 finalists to land Durant.  That's a position we arguably wouldn't be in had we brought in a contract like Tobias Harris.   So I understand the disappointment, but ainge clearly aims high and he's done everything he can to put this team in position to make a leap to a contender.   Let's at least wait to see if he fails before claiming he failed.

But that's part of my issue with ainge. How many years of rumor threads do we have to go through of Love to Boston or horford top spot for Celtics, etc, etc. before ainge makes a move.  Is it fair of ainge to let the fan base wait and wait for that superstar to come in while he scoffs at guys that could help us.  All the fa base has talked about is that if we have X,y players then z will come.  Now they'll come because we have money?  Big deal so does a lot of other teams and more will next year.  I remember the disappointment when the pacers took...david west out from under us.  There is no guarantee so why put all your hopes into what might not be.  Take advantage of opportunity before it's too late.  I think ainge got bit in the ass this year in that very scenario...waiting too long.  Which leads me back to one of my points.  The front office wants to save money.


It's our fault for seeking for rumors, believing them, and investing in them by getting our hopes up and then disappointing ourselves. The majority of rumors are either completely false or highly inaccurate. Pretty much all GMs say this.

Ainge himself also said repeatedly that he was after KG for 3 years before we got him. 3 years! We didn't hear about it until after the draft in 2007, but he was after him since 2004. Imagine if we had heard the rumors in 2004, we would have all been totally depressed by 2007. Instead we were all pumped. Its a matter of perspective, and of having all the facts, which we don't.

I trust Ainge , and I trust when he says he is always looking to acquire superstars. I believe he lays the groundwork for certain players years ahead of time, in case the pieces all land together and he can make the move. Sometimes the pieces don't all come together, sometimes it takes a few years to develop, like a slowly developing offensive play on the court for example.


Quit the dog and pony show please. The only move Ainge made was Garnett Allen 9 seasons ago. 9

I have an idea, let's wait until 2020 when ADavis is a FA


How many seasons did we miss the playoffs during our rebuild after the departure of KG and Pierce.

One or two?

Now we are a perennial playoff team, estimated 50 win/season team, with a tone of cap space and lottery picks to use, and a fantastic young coach and great reputation around the league.

I'd say thats pretty amazing.

Its about Championships. If i want to just make the playoffs, I'll root for the Twolves

Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #113 on: June 26, 2016, 07:19:46 PM »

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Ainge has made terrible decisions in the last couple of years via the draft and ya know he's not making attempts to really get guys.  When I see Tobias Harris gettin picked up and we miss out but attempt to sign javale McGee.  I have to question Danny's thinking. When we needed a SF last year, we pick a point guard.  We trade up for jelly olynyk and let gorgi deng go even though we need a rebounder.

His trading has been decent but now it's caught up with him.  He no longer has stars to attach to the picks to move them and GM's aren't interested in ainge and his cat and mouse games.  Teams are trying to get better.  Ainge and whc just wanna save some [dang] money.

The way I see it, we are one of 6 finalists to land Durant.  That's a position we arguably wouldn't be in had we brought in a contract like Tobias Harris.   So I understand the disappointment, but ainge clearly aims high and he's done everything he can to put this team in position to make a leap to a contender.   Let's at least wait to see if he fails before claiming he failed.

But that's part of my issue with ainge. How many years of rumor threads do we have to go through of Love to Boston or horford top spot for Celtics, etc, etc. before ainge makes a move.  Is it fair of ainge to let the fan base wait and wait for that superstar to come in while he scoffs at guys that could help us.  All the fa base has talked about is that if we have X,y players then z will come.  Now they'll come because we have money?  Big deal so does a lot of other teams and more will next year.  I remember the disappointment when the pacers took...david west out from under us.  There is no guarantee so why put all your hopes into what might not be.  Take advantage of opportunity before it's too late.  I think ainge got bit in the ass this year in that very scenario...waiting too long.  Which leads me back to one of my points.  The front office wants to save money.


It's our fault for seeking for rumors, believing them, and investing in them by getting our hopes up and then disappointing ourselves. The majority of rumors are either completely false or highly inaccurate. Pretty much all GMs say this.

Ainge himself also said repeatedly that he was after KG for 3 years before we got him. 3 years! We didn't hear about it until after the draft in 2007, but he was after him since 2004. Imagine if we had heard the rumors in 2004, we would have all been totally depressed by 2007. Instead we were all pumped. Its a matter of perspective, and of having all the facts, which we don't.

I trust Ainge , and I trust when he says he is always looking to acquire superstars. I believe he lays the groundwork for certain players years ahead of time, in case the pieces all land together and he can make the move. Sometimes the pieces don't all come together, sometimes it takes a few years to develop, like a slowly developing offensive play on the court for example.


Quit the dog and pony show please. The only move Ainge made was Garnett Allen 9 seasons ago. 9

I have an idea, let's wait until 2020 when ADavis is a FA

What dog and pony show?

From 2007-2012 the Celtics were a legitimate title contender.  Ainge built that team.  Immediately after the KG/Allen trades, people complained (see Bob Ryan).  People said they didn't have a bench.  People said they couldn't win with a rookie PG.  But Ainge's free agent signings and especially his draft picks helped support the core of the best Celtics teams since Larry Bird and Kevin McHale.  They were only limited by age and injuries.

You can complain that maybe he held on to Pierce and KG too long.  Maybe he should have moved them, and Rondo, after their last ECF finals appearance and loss.  Maybe there would have been a team that surrendered a Steph Curry or Kawhi Leonard to us for a few years of KG/Pierce/Rondo.  I guarantee this blog would have flipped regardless, but especially after losing in the 4th quarter of Game 7 against Lebron in ECF the reaction here would have been priceless.

So in reality, we are not talking about 9 years, as you state it, without building a title contending team.  We are talking more like 4. 

And in that time Danny has TRADED for Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder, and given up a pile of nothing to get them.  He has traded for multiple first round picks to stock our player pipeline for a decade.  The players he traded for turned this team into a contender - maybe not a title contender yet - but a contender.  No one who followed them this past season would say the team is 'stuck in mediocrity' or 'on a treadmill' or 'in an NBA wasteland.'  They are the 4th youngest team in the league, actually just got younger, have an excellent coach and a great team attitude, and with a little improvement they are legitimately in position to become the 2nd best team in the East behind the NBA Champions.

The wins against GSW and Cleveland on the road were not flukes.  This team has a chance.  And Danny built it.  So quit complaining.
Yea that's what we're all waiting for..the improvements.  Don't is yourself he knew what he had in thimas but not crowder or anyone else.  Bottom line is ainge still has yet to get us a superstar after all his posturing and smokescreens.


19 24 vs .500 or better teams. Cleveland win? Love did not play in the 4th Quarter. GS win? A clock is right twice a day.

In a 7 game series vs both, You get swept. Lets not fool ourselves.

I credit your patience. I do. I have zero patience. Moves can be made to better this Team. I just don't think by drafting College Players gets you to where you want to be.


Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #114 on: June 26, 2016, 07:24:21 PM »

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Ainge has made terrible decisions in the last couple of years via the draft and ya know he's not making attempts to really get guys.  When I see Tobias Harris gettin picked up and we miss out but attempt to sign javale McGee.  I have to question Danny's thinking. When we needed a SF last year, we pick a point guard.  We trade up for jelly olynyk and let gorgi deng go even though we need a rebounder.

His trading has been decent but now it's caught up with him.  He no longer has stars to attach to the picks to move them and GM's aren't interested in ainge and his cat and mouse games.  Teams are trying to get better.  Ainge and whc just wanna save some [dang] money.

The way I see it, we are one of 6 finalists to land Durant.  That's a position we arguably wouldn't be in had we brought in a contract like Tobias Harris.   So I understand the disappointment, but ainge clearly aims high and he's done everything he can to put this team in position to make a leap to a contender.   Let's at least wait to see if he fails before claiming he failed.

But that's part of my issue with ainge. How many years of rumor threads do we have to go through of Love to Boston or horford top spot for Celtics, etc, etc. before ainge makes a move.  Is it fair of ainge to let the fan base wait and wait for that superstar to come in while he scoffs at guys that could help us.  All the fa base has talked about is that if we have X,y players then z will come.  Now they'll come because we have money?  Big deal so does a lot of other teams and more will next year.  I remember the disappointment when the pacers took...david west out from under us.  There is no guarantee so why put all your hopes into what might not be.  Take advantage of opportunity before it's too late.  I think ainge got bit in the ass this year in that very scenario...waiting too long.  Which leads me back to one of my points.  The front office wants to save money.


It's our fault for seeking for rumors, believing them, and investing in them by getting our hopes up and then disappointing ourselves. The majority of rumors are either completely false or highly inaccurate. Pretty much all GMs say this.

Ainge himself also said repeatedly that he was after KG for 3 years before we got him. 3 years! We didn't hear about it until after the draft in 2007, but he was after him since 2004. Imagine if we had heard the rumors in 2004, we would have all been totally depressed by 2007. Instead we were all pumped. Its a matter of perspective, and of having all the facts, which we don't.

I trust Ainge , and I trust when he says he is always looking to acquire superstars. I believe he lays the groundwork for certain players years ahead of time, in case the pieces all land together and he can make the move. Sometimes the pieces don't all come together, sometimes it takes a few years to develop, like a slowly developing offensive play on the court for example.


Quit the dog and pony show please. The only move Ainge made was Garnett Allen 9 seasons ago. 9

I have an idea, let's wait until 2020 when ADavis is a FA


How many seasons did we miss the playoffs during our rebuild after the departure of KG and Pierce.

One or two?

Now we are a perennial playoff team, estimated 50 win/season team, with a tone of cap space and lottery picks to use, and a fantastic young coach and great reputation around the league.

I'd say thats pretty amazing.

Its about Championships. If i want to just make the playoffs, I'll root for the Twolves

The Twolves aren't the team to root for if you like the playoffs lol

Have they even made it since KG was there?
I'm bitter.

Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #115 on: June 26, 2016, 07:30:52 PM »

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Ainge has made terrible decisions in the last couple of years via the draft and ya know he's not making attempts to really get guys.  When I see Tobias Harris gettin picked up and we miss out but attempt to sign javale McGee.  I have to question Danny's thinking. When we needed a SF last year, we pick a point guard.  We trade up for jelly olynyk and let gorgi deng go even though we need a rebounder.

His trading has been decent but now it's caught up with him.  He no longer has stars to attach to the picks to move them and GM's aren't interested in ainge and his cat and mouse games.  Teams are trying to get better.  Ainge and whc just wanna save some [dang] money.

The way I see it, we are one of 6 finalists to land Durant.  That's a position we arguably wouldn't be in had we brought in a contract like Tobias Harris.   So I understand the disappointment, but ainge clearly aims high and he's done everything he can to put this team in position to make a leap to a contender.   Let's at least wait to see if he fails before claiming he failed.

But that's part of my issue with ainge. How many years of rumor threads do we have to go through of Love to Boston or horford top spot for Celtics, etc, etc. before ainge makes a move.  Is it fair of ainge to let the fan base wait and wait for that superstar to come in while he scoffs at guys that could help us.  All the fa base has talked about is that if we have X,y players then z will come.  Now they'll come because we have money?  Big deal so does a lot of other teams and more will next year.  I remember the disappointment when the pacers took...david west out from under us.  There is no guarantee so why put all your hopes into what might not be.  Take advantage of opportunity before it's too late.  I think ainge got bit in the ass this year in that very scenario...waiting too long.  Which leads me back to one of my points.  The front office wants to save money.


It's our fault for seeking for rumors, believing them, and investing in them by getting our hopes up and then disappointing ourselves. The majority of rumors are either completely false or highly inaccurate. Pretty much all GMs say this.

Ainge himself also said repeatedly that he was after KG for 3 years before we got him. 3 years! We didn't hear about it until after the draft in 2007, but he was after him since 2004. Imagine if we had heard the rumors in 2004, we would have all been totally depressed by 2007. Instead we were all pumped. Its a matter of perspective, and of having all the facts, which we don't.

I trust Ainge , and I trust when he says he is always looking to acquire superstars. I believe he lays the groundwork for certain players years ahead of time, in case the pieces all land together and he can make the move. Sometimes the pieces don't all come together, sometimes it takes a few years to develop, like a slowly developing offensive play on the court for example.


Quit the dog and pony show please. The only move Ainge made was Garnett Allen 9 seasons ago. 9

I have an idea, let's wait until 2020 when ADavis is a FA

What dog and pony show?

From 2007-2012 the Celtics were a legitimate title contender.  Ainge built that team.  Immediately after the KG/Allen trades, people complained (see Bob Ryan).  People said they didn't have a bench.  People said they couldn't win with a rookie PG.  But Ainge's free agent signings and especially his draft picks helped support the core of the best Celtics teams since Larry Bird and Kevin McHale.  They were only limited by age and injuries.

You can complain that maybe he held on to Pierce and KG too long.  Maybe he should have moved them, and Rondo, after their last ECF finals appearance and loss.  Maybe there would have been a team that surrendered a Steph Curry or Kawhi Leonard to us for a few years of KG/Pierce/Rondo.  I guarantee this blog would have flipped regardless, but especially after losing in the 4th quarter of Game 7 against Lebron in ECF the reaction here would have been priceless.

So in reality, we are not talking about 9 years, as you state it, without building a title contending team.  We are talking more like 4. 

And in that time Danny has TRADED for Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder, and given up a pile of nothing to get them.  He has traded for multiple first round picks to stock our player pipeline for a decade.  The players he traded for turned this team into a contender - maybe not a title contender yet - but a contender.  No one who followed them this past season would say the team is 'stuck in mediocrity' or 'on a treadmill' or 'in an NBA wasteland.'  They are the 4th youngest team in the league, actually just got younger, have an excellent coach and a great team attitude, and with a little improvement they are legitimately in position to become the 2nd best team in the East behind the NBA Champions.

The wins against GSW and Cleveland on the road were not flukes.  This team has a chance.  And Danny built it.  So quit complaining.
Yea that's what we're all waiting for..the improvements.  Don't is yourself he knew what he had in thimas but not crowder or anyone else.  Bottom line is ainge still has yet to get us a superstar after all his posturing and smokescreens.


19 24 vs .500 or better teams. Cleveland win? Love did not play in the 4th Quarter. GS win? A clock is right twice a day.

In a 7 game series vs both, You get swept. Lets not fool ourselves.

I credit your patience. I do. I have zero patience. Moves can be made to better this Team. I just don't think by drafting College Players gets you to where you want to be.

is that your go-to stat? lol, everytime there's a discussion about the level of our team i see this.

anyways, if we werent to draft college guys, what did you want us to do? trade for Noel? wouldnt move the needle. trade for butler? they wanted the farm, would have depleted our roster. point is, theres sometimes not a way to make the team better except patience. patience developing the picks, patience waiting for a buy low trade to come up (like how we got isaiah).
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #116 on: June 26, 2016, 07:51:38 PM »

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Anyone upset with Ainge needs to clam down and be patient
We are in the process and next summer will be the true key for fireworks

I truly mean no offense, but it's statements like this one that have led to lots of Cs fans (myself included) getting our expectations up. High expectations are partly the fault of those of us who let our expectations be raised, but between Wyc's talk of fireworks and certain Cs fans saying things like "just wait until (fill in the blank—next summer/next trade deadline, etc.), it's exceedingly difficult to not hope or get excited for "what might happen."

For me, I wasn't disappointed with the Brown pick—not at first, anyway. As the night went on, though, and legit basketball reporters such as Woj were saying things like "The Celtics are in negotiations with Chicago for Jimmy Butler" (or something to that effect), and then those things didn't come to pass, and then I learned about certain picks being draft-and-stash, and other picks being traded for future picks ... well, seeing the can get kicked down the road yet again was pretty disappointing. And then I saw the disappointment others were expressing, and I let myself get sucked into it even worse, and I started thinking more about Brown, like, "Great, another player who can't shoot well." Etc.

He's growing on me, though, and I also understand more now about what the optimists are saying (though I think that some people are a little extreme in their optimism, but I digress), so I'm going to try to stay patient with all of this—but without expecting much.  ;D

Nailed it. It has happened to me too, as my expectations for the Rondo trade had become too high based on what I was reading.

And I should say I can see this happening already. It's not like people are waiting for the next summer.

Now it is KD. How high are our chances for KD realistically? 10, maybe 15 %? And you can still find line ups based on KD coming here ('First we sign KD, this convinces Horford to come, then a couple of elite veterans etc'). It's this build up of expectations that leads to disappointment.

Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #117 on: June 26, 2016, 08:03:46 PM »

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ehm, did I read correctly?

was larbrd's account hacked in the summer of 2015? does this mean what we were reading from him back then was written by someone else?  :o
Not everything.  Just the stuff that made me look bad.

Either North Korea or Nicki Minaj's team of hackers figured out my old password (ilovehinkie) and were subsequently posting dumb predictions from my account.  Actually, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that North Korea was working together with Nicki Minaj's team of hackers. 

But like I said... me, Sony Pictures, Iggy Azalea and D'Angelo Russell are taking the high road on this. 

Anyways...

Here's the thing about fireworks.  At least wait until July 4th to see if any go off.  In my neighborhood, there's regulations about when we can even light them.  We have our meeting with KD on July 1st, supposedly.  He's leaving for a shoe tour on July 9th and his decision is expected before then.  If you're lounging on a grassy hill eating a hot dog whining about the lack of fireworks going off on June 26th, you'll look kind of silly.   Let's wait until the scheduled time next month for the show and first see if Boston shoots off some duds.   We aren't even there yet. 

Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #118 on: June 26, 2016, 08:13:55 PM »

Offline Eja117

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Anyone upset with Ainge needs to clam down and be patient
We are in the process and next summer will be the true key for fireworks

I truly mean no offense, but it's statements like this one that have led to lots of Cs fans (myself included) getting our expectations up. High expectations are partly the fault of those of us who let our expectations be raised, but between Wyc's talk of fireworks and certain Cs fans saying things like "just wait until (fill in the blank—next summer/next trade deadline, etc.), it's exceedingly difficult to not hope or get excited for "what might happen."

For me, I wasn't disappointed with the Brown pick—not at first, anyway. As the night went on, though, and legit basketball reporters such as Woj were saying things like "The Celtics are in negotiations with Chicago for Jimmy Butler" (or something to that effect), and then those things didn't come to pass, and then I learned about certain picks being draft-and-stash, and other picks being traded for future picks ... well, seeing the can get kicked down the road yet again was pretty disappointing. And then I saw the disappointment others were expressing, and I let myself get sucked into it even worse, and I started thinking more about Brown, like, "Great, another player who can't shoot well." Etc.

He's growing on me, though, and I also understand more now about what the optimists are saying (though I think that some people are a little extreme in their optimism, but I digress), so I'm going to try to stay patient with all of this—but without expecting much.  ;D
This is Boston. When it comes to our sports teams there are no such thing as too high of expectations and I apologize not for that. We aren't Tampa Bay or St Louis or some other such town. Pro championships are my birthright. They always have been and always will be.  If other towns say that makes me obnoxious or insufferable....good.

Re: To those criticizing Ainge
« Reply #119 on: June 26, 2016, 08:27:05 PM »

Offline BigDogPitbull

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People invest too much time and spend too much money to not be able to criticize Ainge.  He hasn't drafted anyone good since he drafted Bradley.