Stein - Sixers offered Noel, Covington, 24, and 26 for 3

[chambers]

Using logic, it's fairly easy to conclude that this is a lowball offer for a #3 pick.
Noel is a solid big man with one year on his deal. He loves Boston and we can sign him to an offer sheet in one year. So we'd be giving up the #3 for this guy and a few other scrubs when the Hawks were talking about a deal for Noel centered around Teague (who fetched #12).

Now if the 76ers offered Okafor instead of Noel, we're talking about a real potential deal- but this is Danny Ainge, and if you think about this scenario for 2 minutes,  there was ZERO chance of us giving up the #3 in a deal based around Noel.
I'm surprised how much traction this garbage has gotten.
76ers fans would be laughing about being the first team that's fleeced Ainge in recent history.

This is the kind of robbery that Ainge gets away with. Danny Ainge is the thief, he's rarely the mark.

[cltc5]

Using logic, it's fairly easy to conclude that this is a lowball offer for a #3 pick.
Noel is a solid big man with one year on his deal. He loves Boston and we can sign him to an offer sheet in one year. So we'd be giving up the #3 for this guy and a few other scrubs when the Hawks were talking about a deal for Noel centered around Teague (who fetched #12).

Now if the 76ers offered Okafor instead of Noel, we're talking about a real potential deal- but this is Danny Ainge, and if you think about this scenario for 2 minutes,  there was ZERO chance of us giving up the #3 in a deal based around Noel.
I'm surprised how much traction this garbage has gotten.
76ers fans would be laughing about being the first team that's fleeced Ainge in recent history.

This is the kind of robbery that Ainge gets away with. Danny Ainge is the thief, he's rarely the mark.

I missed the part where logic was used here

[oldtype]

How much is Noel actually worth given that you're going to have to pay him max money next season?

[Diggles]

How much is Noel actually worth given that you're going to have to pay him max money next season?

I rather have 4 years of Brown at 4/5 million vs 1 Year of Noel on our team not ready for contention.   Plus gives us another body to throw at James. 

[LooseCannon]

Did the Sixers offer betray an unwillingness to match a max offer sheet for Noel next summer?

[jpotter33]

Using logic, it's fairly easy to conclude that this is a lowball offer for a #3 pick.
Noel is a solid big man with one year on his deal. He loves Boston and we can sign him to an offer sheet in one year. So we'd be giving up the #3 for this guy and a few other scrubs when the Hawks were talking about a deal for Noel centered around Teague (who fetched #12).

Now if the 76ers offered Okafor instead of Noel, we're talking about a real potential deal- but this is Danny Ainge, and if you think about this scenario for 2 minutes,  there was ZERO chance of us giving up the #3 in a deal based around Noel.
I'm surprised how much traction this garbage has gotten.
76ers fans would be laughing about being the first team that's fleeced Ainge in recent history.

This is the kind of robbery that Ainge gets away with. Danny Ainge is the thief, he's rarely the mark.

Okafor was on the table, and we didn't want him, which is why Noel was the preferred target. So, no, he also turned down an Okafor for number three deal, too.

[jpotter33]

Did the Sixers offer betray an unwillingness to match a max offer sheet for Noel next summer?

Well, it depends on Embiid. There's absolutely no point to match an offer sheet if Embiid stays healthy and works out, but if he continues to be injured and looks more and more to be a bust, I don't think they can let him walk and would match offer sheets.

So essentially the people saying that we can just sign him next year aren't really considering the fact that we very well might not have the final say on the matter.

[crimson_stallion]

I don't love that Ainge rejected this deal for Brown.

To be honest, I don't mind Brown. 

Dunn was far and away my first choice at #3, but my second choice I was pretty much stuck 50/50 between Brown and Hield. 

I felt Hield was more NBA ready and could help us a LOT right now, but Brown has undeniable upside, and he shoul be able to contribute right away as a defender and rebounder at the three spot (much like RHJ did for the Nets) so I don't hate the pick. I'm just disappointing because I feel like Dunn is going to be an absolute stud and missing out on him hurts.

Even still, Noel is a really nice piece who would have taken care of 50% of our front court needs (we desperately need a starting caliber PF and C) and he's young enough to have grown with our team and he'd help us immediately with his shotblocking and rebounding at the very least - plus he could potentially become a very nice P&R finisher playing with Thomas.

Covington is also a solid contributer who could have been very nice insurance at the SF spot in case Turner walked away while also giving us another guy who can shoot the three.

Those two picks weren't a huge deal, but Danny acould have used them to draft stash guys or traded them for future firsts (as he did with our 30's picks) - ultimately it couldn't hurt to have them.

But I'm going to try and be positive, and I'll accept Brown with open arms and hope for the best!!

[aingeforthree]

Nobody with a clear mind would take the garbage Philly offered

[TheSundanceKid]

As far as I was aware Philly also wanted a player in return. Rumoured to be Bradley. So it was a definite no from me

[SHAQATTACK]

Epic screwup by Ainge

Historic fail.

[jpotter33]

As far as I was aware Philly also wanted a player in return. Rumoured to be Bradley. So it was a definite no from me

There was absolutely no credible mention of Bradley going back. It would've been our trash like Young or Hunter to match salaries.

[D Dub]

How much is Noel actually worth given that you're going to have to pay him max money next season?

I rather have 4 years of Brown at 4/5 million vs 1 Year of Noel on our team not ready for contention.   Plus gives us another body to throw at James.

the issue isn't so much Brown vs. Noel.

the problem, as I see it, is that we had a chance to solidify our front court with a player that would have made our lineup a much more complete place for Durant to consider.

drafting all those picks, we took ourselves out of the KD sweepstakes. 

with so many assets at our disposal, DA shouldn't have been such a stickler about 'winning' the deal. 

this was our chance to take a leap forward, trade for legit pieces that would have impressed KD.  not next year, not 18' ---- yesterday was the day ---- and he let his ego get in the way as he tried to game Chicago & Philly into a bidding war. 

Okafor straight up for #3 could have happened.  Danny wanted more though.  Butler for #3, Crowder & Amir could have happened.  Danny wanted to move AB instead though.

Bottom line, last night his hubris cost us a chance compete for number 18 anytime before 2020. 

Now we have to rely on his son's scouting ability (is Austin really best for that job? or did he land that job thanks to uncontested nepotism?) to draft someone who can grow into an all star.  All those picks, and I'm not sure we even got a rotation player last night. 

Nothing against Jaylen, but he's got an uphill climb with this fanbase thanks to the spot Ainge and Wyc put him in. 

[Rondo9]

How much is Noel actually worth given that you're going to have to pay him max money next season?

I rather have 4 years of Brown at 4/5 million vs 1 Year of Noel on our team not ready for contention.   Plus gives us another body to throw at James.

the issue isn't so much Brown vs. Noel.

the problem, as I see it, is that we had a chance to solidify our front court with a player that would have made our lineup a much more complete place for Durant to consider.

drafting all those picks, we took ourselves out of the KD sweepstakes. 

with so many assets at our disposal, DA shouldn't have been such a stickler about 'winning' the deal. 

this was our chance to take a leap forward, trade for legit pieces that would have impressed KD.  not next year, not 18' ---- yesterday was the day ---- and he let his ego get in the way as he tried to game Chicago & Philly into a bidding war. 

Okafor straight up for #3 could have happened.  Danny wanted more though.  Butler for #3, Crowder & Amir could have happened.  Danny wanted to move AB instead though.

Bottom line, last night his hubris cost us a chance compete for number 18 anytime before 2020. 

Now we have to rely on his son's scouting ability (is Austin really best for that job? or did he land that job thanks to uncontested nepotism?) to draft someone who can grow into an all star.  All those picks, and I'm not sure we even got a rotation player last night. 

Nothing against Jaylen, but he's got an uphill climb with this fanbase thanks to the spot Ainge and Wyc put him in.

I don't think Noel will be the deciding factor for Durant.

[kozlodoev]

How much is Noel actually worth given that you're going to have to pay him max money next season?

I rather have 4 years of Brown at 4/5 million vs 1 Year of Noel on our team not ready for contention.   Plus gives us another body to throw at James.

the issue isn't so much Brown vs. Noel.

the problem, as I see it, is that we had a chance to solidify our front court with a player that would have made our lineup a much more complete place for Durant to consider.

drafting all those picks, we took ourselves out of the KD sweepstakes. 

with so many assets at our disposal, DA shouldn't have been such a stickler about 'winning' the deal. 

this was our chance to take a leap forward, trade for legit pieces that would have impressed KD.  not next year, not 18' ---- yesterday was the day ---- and he let his ego get in the way as he tried to game Chicago & Philly into a bidding war. 

Okafor straight up for #3 could have happened.  Danny wanted more though.  Butler for #3, Crowder & Amir could have happened.  Danny wanted to move AB instead though.

Bottom line, last night his hubris cost us a chance compete for number 18 anytime before 2020. 

Now we have to rely on his son's scouting ability (is Austin really best for that job? or did he land that job thanks to uncontested nepotism?) to draft someone who can grow into an all star.  All those picks, and I'm not sure we even got a rotation player last night. 

Nothing against Jaylen, but he's got an uphill climb with this fanbase thanks to the spot Ainge and Wyc put him in.

I don't think Noel will be the deciding factor for Durant.

This is, however, a good indicator of the type of delusional thinking that ultimately causes people to be unhappy with the management.