Khris middleton for the 3rd?

[LGC88]

Threads like these make me realize how many totally ignorant some celtics fans and NBA fans are in general.

"Player I've never/barely heard of on a team I don't know about? HE SUCKS"

Middleton is the scorer we need and has improved every year he's been in the league. It's gonna take a lot to get him though from Milwaukee. Probably #3 plus another high pick or a player.

TP, I second that.

[PAOBoston]

Can Middleton create his own shot? He can shoot the 3 which is a plus considering the C's are a bad 3 pt shooting team. Not sure I'm willing to give up the 3 for him though. Maybe if there are other pieces involved as well.

[dannyboy35]

Can you guys give another nba equivalent player to Middleton. I've seen very little of him. Can he penetrate or is he strictly a stand still shooter?

[alldaboston]

Middleton would be amazing! He can shoot, plays defense, is on a decreasing contract (like IT's), is only 24, is versatile. 6'8" SG/SF would be great for us.

[LGC88]

Can you guys give another nba equivalent player to Middleton. I've seen very little of him. Can he penetrate or is he strictly a stand still shooter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6RdSxi_OC8

[Tr1boy]

Can you guys give another nba equivalent player to Middleton. I've seen very little of him. Can he penetrate or is he strictly a stand still shooter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6RdSxi_OC8

He is basically a 6'6 Buddy Hield

[saltlover]

Can Middleton create his own shot? He can shoot the 3 which is a plus considering the C's are a bad 3 pt shooting team. Not sure I'm willing to give up the 3 for him though. Maybe if there are other pieces involved as well.

Only 41.5% of his 2-point attempt last season were assisted.  It was 59.6% the year before.  So yes, he can create his own shot, and it's something he's been doing with more frequency.

[meangreenmachine]

I'm surprised everyone is so against trading #3 for Middleton. I don't think we should trade the pick before we know exactly who it's going to be but Middleton is 24 years old and averaged 18-4-4 with 1.7 steals per game last year, shooting .444/.396/.888. He plays good defense and is exactly the kind of player the Celtics need (a shooting wing who can defend).

What are the odds that anyone rumored to be taken #3 will be as good of a two-way player as Middleton?

Exactly. Plus, Middleton is locked into a cap-friendly contract for three years, which diminishes in value for the duration of the contract. Middleton for three is a good deal. I would try to convince the Bucks to part with the 10th pick, too, by including some of our later picks.

[Silent Storm]

I would take Gordon Hayward over Middleton for the #3.

[meangreenmachine]

I would take Gordon Hayward over Middleton for the #3.

If do not get Durant one of the next two free agencies, I would bet on us landing Hayward next year.

[BitterJim]

Threads like these make me realize how many totally ignorant some celtics fans and NBA fans are in general.

"Player I've never/barely heard of on a team I don't know about? HE SUCKS"

Middleton is the scorer we need and has improved every year he's been in the league. It's gonna take a lot to get him though from Milwaukee. Probably #3 plus another high pick or a player.

Considering that, in general, top 5 picks that get traded for established players usually get you an all star, thinking 3 for Middleton is fair (or even an overpay) isn't crazy.  Middleton is worth quite a bit, but so is the #3 pick

[Smokeeye123]

Threads like these make me realize how many totally ignorant some celtics fans and NBA fans are in general.

"Player I've never/barely heard of on a team I don't know about? HE SUCKS"

Middleton is the scorer we need and has improved every year he's been in the league. It's gonna take a lot to get him though from Milwaukee. Probably #3 plus another high pick or a player.

Considering that, in general, top 5 picks that get traded for established players usually get you an all star, thinking 3 for Middleton is fair (or even an overpay) isn't crazy.  Middleton is worth quite a bit, but so is the #3 pick

Drafts usually have more than 2 universally accepted great players in them.

[mmmmm]

Can you guys give another nba equivalent player to Middleton. I've seen very little of him. Can he penetrate or is he strictly a stand still shooter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6RdSxi_OC8

He is basically a 6'6 Buddy Hield

Middleton is 6' 6.75" w/o shoes, 6' 8.25" w/shoes, with 6' 10.75" wingspan.  So he's quite a bit bigger than Hield (6' 3.75" w/o shoes, 6' 5" w/shoes, 6' 9.25" wingspan).

He plays SG & SF and is an excellent defender, both on-ball and off and is very smart with team help defense.

On offense, he's a very solid 40% career 3PT shooter.  He's excellent at the hand-off screen play that we use a lot with Avery, scoring 1.05 points-per-play (80% percentile) and he's actually a very good isolation scorer as well (0.96 ppp, 82.1%).

He's only 24 years old and on an awesome contract.

I concur with those who advocate that he would be a great trade target for the #3.   

I doubt Milwaukee would give him up for just that though.

[saltlover]

Threads like these make me realize how many totally ignorant some celtics fans and NBA fans are in general.

"Player I've never/barely heard of on a team I don't know about? HE SUCKS"

Middleton is the scorer we need and has improved every year he's been in the league. It's gonna take a lot to get him though from Milwaukee. Probably #3 plus another high pick or a player.

Considering that, in general, top 5 picks that get traded for established players usually get you an all star, thinking 3 for Middleton is fair (or even an overpay) isn't crazy.  Middleton is worth quite a bit, but so is the #3 pick

Drafts usually have more than 2 universally accepted great players in them.

No they don't.

[mmmmm]

I would take Gordon Hayward over Middleton for the #3.

Trading the #3 for Gordon Hayward would be a horrible waste of the value of the #3 because Hayward can be a free agent next summer.   That means you are burning the value of the pick just for one year of Hayward.

Even if you think you can/want to re-sign Hayward next year, you could have just waited until next Summer to have Brad call his old pupil and get him to sign, all without using up the #3 pick.

Middleton is on a great contract, under team control through 2018-19 (player option in 2019-20) with a cap hit that declines steadily to just 13M in the final year.