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Non-Durant Best Case Scenario
« on: May 04, 2016, 12:23:26 AM »

Offline Ilikesports17

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This idea has kinda been covered within other threads, so sorry for any redundancy.

At the beginning of every offseason you see a lot of best case and worst case scenarios. For us, obviously, any best case scenario involves Kevin Durant becoming a Boston Celtic. I personally think we have as good a shot as any if he leaves OKC but I still think the odds of him coming here are south of 10%. Whatever they are we are certainly not the odds on favorite for KD. So what if we dont sign KD? then what is your best case. I figure its most likely that KD signs a 1+1 year deal with a player option in OKC so lets assume he does that and announces thats what hes going to do tommorow. Then what is your perfect offseason. Im really conflicted on mine. Ill post it as soon as Im sure what I want to do, but Im curious to see the blogs opinion here.
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Re: Non-Durant Best Case Scenario
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 12:54:09 AM »

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If Durant is a no-go, then I'd say the best case-scenario could still be pretty good.

BCS Trading the Pick for a Star - If we could trade for Cousins and still sign Horford to play PF next to him, which he's pretty hell-bent on apparently, that's still the favorite for the Eastern Conference, in my opinion, especially because that frontcourt would present some heavy matchup challenges for Cleveland.

If we couldn't sign Horford but still could trade for Cousins, then I wouldn't mind giving Deng the "Amir treatment" and overpaying him for 1 + 1 type of deal to play the small-ball 4 for us. That's still a really good two-way team with IT, Bradley, Crowder, Deng, and Cousins.

BCS Keeping the Pick (Picks 1-2) - If we decide to keep the pick and make no big trades with it, then I see us rolling out with a very similar squad next year with either Ingram or Simmons starting for  us. Maybe we try to package our later picks and pick up someone like Poeltl in the middle to later parts of the lottery. Unfortunately, I could also see us reaching and paying big money to a Barnes type or even a Beal type of player.

BCS Trading the Pick for a Non-Star (Pick 3 On) - If we get pick 3, 4, or 5, I think a trade for an Okafor, Noel, Favors, etc. would be the best case scenario for us.

Re: Non-Durant Best Case Scenario
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 12:59:37 AM »

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Win #1 trade it, 31 and Rozier for #2 from Philly and Noel.

Trade #2, AJ, JJ, Hunter, 16, 23 and Nets 2018 to Jazz for Hayward and Favors.

Sign KD DeRozan at Max. Sign Pau with remaining cap.

Draft Zizic 35. Yogi 45,  Yab 51, Warney 58.

IT/Smart/Yogi
Hayward DeRozan/AB
KD Hayward/Crowder/Young
Favors/KO/Mickey
Noel/Pau/Warney

Stash Yab and Zizic.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 01:32:33 AM »

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Win #1 trade it, 31 and Rozier for #2 from Philly and Noel.

Trade #2, AJ, JJ, Hunter, 16, 23 and Nets 2018 to Jazz for Hayward and Favors.

Sign KD DeRozan at Max. Sign Pau with remaining cap.

Draft Zizic 35. Yogi 45,  Yab 51, Warney 58.

IT/Smart/Yogi
Hayward DeRozan/AB
KD Hayward/Crowder/Young
Favors/Mickey/Zizic
Noel/Pau/Warney

Stash Yab or Zizic depending on who is more ready.

I don't like derozan. He's a disappearing act in the playoffs, and his skill set doesn't warrant a max imo
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 01:56:24 AM »

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DeRozan, an iso guy with no 3pts shooting. His FG% in the playoffs is horrible.
Can you explain me how he fits in Celtics ball movement type of offense?

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 02:20:27 AM »

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DeRozan, an iso guy with no 3pts shooting. His FG% in the playoffs is horrible.
Can you explain me how he fits in Celtics ball movement type of offense?
Same way as Turner does. But more trips to the line

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016, 02:34:13 AM »

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DeRozan, an iso guy with no 3pts shooting. His FG% in the playoffs is horrible.
Can you explain me how he fits in Celtics ball movement type of offense?
Same way as Turner does. But more trips to the line

Thing with Turner was he was basically backup PG, covering for IT and occasionally moving IT to the 2. Is that the role derozan would play for us?
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016, 07:12:27 AM »

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Win #1 trade it, 31 and Rozier for #2 from Philly and Noel.

Trade #2, AJ, JJ, Hunter, 16, 23 and Nets 2018 to Jazz for Hayward and Favors.

Sign KD DeRozan at Max. Sign Pau with remaining cap.

Draft Zizic 35. Yogi 45,  Yab 51, Warney 58.

IT/Smart/Yogi
Hayward DeRozan/AB
KD Hayward/Crowder/Young
Favors/Mickey/Zizic
Noel/Pau/Warney

Stash Yab or Zizic depending on who is more ready.

You forgot Olynyk

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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 07:59:44 AM »

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Steven A Smith says Derozan is going to LA.  He says Demar is from there, always dreamed of playing for the Lakers, and is a lock to sign there.

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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 09:06:28 AM »

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Steven A Smith says Derozan is going to LA.  He says Demar is from there, always dreamed of playing for the Lakers, and is a lock to sign there.

Interesting - as said in the Lakers thread, let's just hope their pick doesn't convey. That way they'll have to trade their accumulated player assets for a player rather than a top 3 pick. Derozan with that Lakers team seems like a disaster. It seems their entire team is already shot creating combo guards, but I guess they need to replace Kobe now.

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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2016, 11:51:47 AM »

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Win #1 trade it, 31 and Rozier for #2 from Philly and Noel.

Trade #2, AJ, JJ, Hunter, 16, 23 and Nets 2018 to Jazz for Hayward and Favors.

Sign KD DeRozan at Max. Sign Pau with remaining cap.

Draft Zizic 35. Yogi 45,  Yab 51, Warney 58.

IT/Smart/Yogi
Hayward DeRozan/AB
KD Hayward/Crowder/Young
Favors/Mickey/Zizic
Noel/Pau/Warney

Stash Yab or Zizic depending on who is more ready.

You forgot Olynyk
How forgetful of me. Guess I forgot he was on team after he was so invisible during playoffs.

Stash Yab and Zizic both.
Pf=Favors/KO/Mickey

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2016, 11:57:13 AM »

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Steven A Smith says Derozan is going to LA.  He says Demar is from there, always dreamed of playing for the Lakers, and is a lock to sign there.

Interesting - as said in the Lakers thread, let's just hope their pick doesn't convey. That way they'll have to trade their accumulated player assets for a player rather than a top 3 pick. Derozan with that Lakers team seems like a disaster. It seems their entire team is already shot creating combo guards, but I guess they need to replace Kobe now.

Probably means Clarkson is gone? Or are they gonna pay him big money off the bench? Or trot out a Russell Clarkson Derozan lineup?
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2016, 11:58:14 AM »

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DeRozan, an iso guy with no 3pts shooting. His FG% in the playoffs is horrible.
Can you explain me how he fits in Celtics ball movement type of offense?
Same way as Turner does. But more trips to the line

Thing with Turner was he was basically backup PG, covering for IT and occasionally moving IT to the 2. Is that the role derozan would play for us?
DeRozan shot 33% from three so he is still an outside threat and his shooting will probably get to 34-36 which would make him ok. On top of this he isn't as easy to trap like IT and works well off the ball better than Turner. He gives team a super version of Turner. A guy that is better than AB and almost as good as Butler. People want to give up picks and assets for Butler. DeRozan simply comes as a FA and you don't give up anything.

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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2016, 11:09:06 PM »

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I hope the C's hold off on signing any big FA's to retain cap space for 2017. Then draft Simmons and Korkmaz. Trade a couple picks for guys who will replace Zeller + Sully on short-term contracts, stash a couple promising Euros.

Oh, and the Nets trade off Thad and Lopez, going into tank mode for 2017 :P

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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2016, 01:12:19 AM »

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It's got to be acquiring a different superstar through trade. Cousins is our best option. He's potentially available, and is the best available player unless PG surprisingly becomes goes on the block. We could supplement our addition of Boogie with the signing of Batum or Bazemore. The second best non-KD scenario would be landing a top 2 pick and getting one of Ingram or Simmons.
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