Out of the box trade idea w/ Miami

[Eddie20]

With Bosh's career in jeopardy along with the Heat having several key players as free agents (Wade, Johnson, Whiteside, Deng) would the Heat consider trading Bosh to a team with cap room in order to free up cap space to re-sign their free agents and potentially sign a max player this summer? Obviously in this scenario they would need to trade an asset, but they aren't able to trade a 1st rd pick until 2023 because of the Dragic deal. So how about Winslow? Would they consider trading Winslow to dump Bosh's contract, which would combine to free up nearly 30 million in cap room? This is of course assuming we strike out during free agency and the plan becomes to roll back the cap space for one more season, but with the benefit of adding Winslow.

*This is under the premise that Bosh is not able to play and is forced to retire.

Miami Herald
Bosh has indicated to associates that he has no plans to retire at this time and intends to play next season for the Heat. He is under contract for three seasons after this one, at roughly $75.5 million. Even if he retired this offseason, the Heat would not receive any salary-cap relief until summer 2017.

[Lucky17]

Conspiracy theory alert: would it be strategic for MIA to force Bosh into a medical retirement, considering the years remaining on his contract?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q63

There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is excluded from team salary. This is when a player suffers a career-ending injury or illness. The team must waive the player, and can apply for this salary exclusion following a waiting period. Only the player's team at the time the injury or illness was discovered (or reasonably should have been discovered) can apply for this salary exclusion.

The waiting period depends on the number games in which the player played in the season:1

    If the player played 10 or more games in a season, the team can apply on the one-year anniversary of the player's last game.
    If the player played fewer than 10 in a season, the team can apply 60 days after his last game, or the one-year anniversary of his last game in the previous season, whichever is later.

The determination as to whether an injury or illness is career ending is made by a physician jointly selected by the league and players association. The determination is based on whether the injury or illness will prevent the player from playing for the remainder of his career, or if it is severe enough that continuing to play constitutes a medically unacceptable risk.

If the injury exclusion is granted, the player's salary is removed from the team salary immediately.

$75 million is a lot to pay for a guy who's missed time each of the last two years due to a serious medical condition. Could they string him along until Feb 2017 and then waive him, just to get out of that deal?

[Roy H.]

Conspiracy theory alert: would it be strategic for MIA to force Bosh into a medical retirement, considering the years remaining on his contract?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q63

There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is excluded from team salary. This is when a player suffers a career-ending injury or illness. The team must waive the player, and can apply for this salary exclusion following a waiting period. Only the player's team at the time the injury or illness was discovered (or reasonably should have been discovered) can apply for this salary exclusion.

The waiting period depends on the number games in which the player played in the season:1

    If the player played 10 or more games in a season, the team can apply on the one-year anniversary of the player's last game.
    If the player played fewer than 10 in a season, the team can apply 60 days after his last game, or the one-year anniversary of his last game in the previous season, whichever is later.

The determination as to whether an injury or illness is career ending is made by a physician jointly selected by the league and players association. The determination is based on whether the injury or illness will prevent the player from playing for the remainder of his career, or if it is severe enough that continuing to play constitutes a medically unacceptable risk.

If the injury exclusion is granted, the player's salary is removed from the team salary immediately.

$75 million is a lot to pay for a guy who's missed time each of the last two years due to a serious medical condition. Could they string him along until Feb 2017 and then waive him, just to get out of that deal?

Bosh wants to play, though. Upon being waived, he'd sign somewhere. Assuming he plays 25+ games, the salary all goes back on Miami's cap.

[Eddie20]

Conspiracy theory alert: would it be strategic for MIA to force Bosh into a medical retirement, considering the years remaining on his contract?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q63

There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is excluded from team salary. This is when a player suffers a career-ending injury or illness. The team must waive the player, and can apply for this salary exclusion following a waiting period. Only the player's team at the time the injury or illness was discovered (or reasonably should have been discovered) can apply for this salary exclusion.

The waiting period depends on the number games in which the player played in the season:1

    If the player played 10 or more games in a season, the team can apply on the one-year anniversary of the player's last game.
    If the player played fewer than 10 in a season, the team can apply 60 days after his last game, or the one-year anniversary of his last game in the previous season, whichever is later.

The determination as to whether an injury or illness is career ending is made by a physician jointly selected by the league and players association. The determination is based on whether the injury or illness will prevent the player from playing for the remainder of his career, or if it is severe enough that continuing to play constitutes a medically unacceptable risk.

If the injury exclusion is granted, the player's salary is removed from the team salary immediately.

$75 million is a lot to pay for a guy who's missed time each of the last two years due to a serious medical condition. Could they string him along until Feb 2017 and then waive him, just to get out of that deal?

Bosh wants to play, though. Upon being waived, he'd sign somewhere. Assuming he plays 25+ games, the salary all goes back on Miami's cap.

Yeah, he definitely wants to play, but will he be able to? They're in a really tough spot. If they get the inkling that he won't be able to return then I think they'll make a move. They're in win mode now until Riley walks.

[Roy H.]

Conspiracy theory alert: would it be strategic for MIA to force Bosh into a medical retirement, considering the years remaining on his contract?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q63

There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is excluded from team salary. This is when a player suffers a career-ending injury or illness. The team must waive the player, and can apply for this salary exclusion following a waiting period. Only the player's team at the time the injury or illness was discovered (or reasonably should have been discovered) can apply for this salary exclusion.

The waiting period depends on the number games in which the player played in the season:1

    If the player played 10 or more games in a season, the team can apply on the one-year anniversary of the player's last game.
    If the player played fewer than 10 in a season, the team can apply 60 days after his last game, or the one-year anniversary of his last game in the previous season, whichever is later.

The determination as to whether an injury or illness is career ending is made by a physician jointly selected by the league and players association. The determination is based on whether the injury or illness will prevent the player from playing for the remainder of his career, or if it is severe enough that continuing to play constitutes a medically unacceptable risk.

If the injury exclusion is granted, the player's salary is removed from the team salary immediately.

$75 million is a lot to pay for a guy who's missed time each of the last two years due to a serious medical condition. Could they string him along until Feb 2017 and then waive him, just to get out of that deal?

Bosh wants to play, though. Upon being waived, he'd sign somewhere. Assuming he plays 25+ games, the salary all goes back on Miami's cap.

Yeah, he definitely wants to play, but will he be able to? They're in a really tough spot. If they get the inkling that he won't be able to return then I think they'll make a move. They're in win mode now until Riley walks.

I can see them trying to trade him. Cutting him under a medical retirement and hoping he won't ever be able to play 25 games is way too risky, though, because there's a good chance that the Heat get stuck with 100% of his cap hit while losing his rights.

[jambr380]

Yikes - $75.5M is a hefty price to pay for Winslow. On the off chance that Bosh can play again, he is exactly what we need, though. I just don't see Danny jeopardizing all of our future cap space on a prospect without some assurance that Bosh will return (or retire).

Interesting idea, though.

[Moranis]

If Boston strikes out in free agency, I'd be open to something like this I think.

Bosh, Winslow

for

Amir, Jerebko

I wouldn't want to keep Amir and Jerebko in that situation anyway, so just send them to Miami so they don't have as much a trade exception. 

I think that Bosh is worth that kind of flyer, though it is obviously a huge risk, and you would have to have all of the medicals and feel like there is a good chance Bosh is going to play at some point.