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Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2016, 11:46:45 AM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?


Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2016, 11:49:39 AM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?

He's banged up & he's trying to play through it.

What else do you want the guy to do at this point?  He cares & he's trying.  It sucks that he's not nearly as effective as he was during most of the regular season but outside a miracle in medical science, this is what we're stuck with at the moment. 


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Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2016, 11:49:58 AM »

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Release the jae.  We are one superstar.  We need jae crowder like  yesterday.

Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2016, 11:51:51 AM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?

He's banged up & he's trying to play through it.

What else do you want the guy to do at this point?  He cares & he's trying.  It sucks that he's not nearly as effective as he was during most of the regular season but outside a miracle in medical science, this is what we're stuck with at the moment.

What about game 4 performance then? Temporary miracle?

Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2016, 11:57:38 AM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?

He's banged up & he's trying to play through it.

What else do you want the guy to do at this point?  He cares & he's trying.  It sucks that he's not nearly as effective as he was during most of the regular season but outside a miracle in medical science, this is what we're stuck with at the moment.

What about game 4 performance then? Temporary miracle?

That he shot under his season average in points, FG%, 3P% in Game 4?

C'mon Triboy, at least do some research before you speak.  My god.

Even throwing the stats out, its apparent to anyone with a set of eyeballs that Crowder isn't totally right and just trying to grind it out.


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Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2016, 11:57:47 AM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?

He's banged up & he's trying to play through it.

What else do you want the guy to do at this point?  He cares & he's trying.  It sucks that he's not nearly as effective as he was during most of the regular season but outside a miracle in medical science, this is what we're stuck with at the moment.

What about game 4 performance then? Temporary miracle?
I'd say it was adrenaline. Anyone who has ever been injured know there are good days and there are bad days.
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Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2016, 12:00:14 PM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?

He's banged up & he's trying to play through it.

What else do you want the guy to do at this point?  He cares & he's trying.  It sucks that he's not nearly as effective as he was during most of the regular season but outside a miracle in medical science, this is what we're stuck with at the moment.

The fact that games are now played much sooner than the first ones of the series (when there was about 2 or 3 days of rest between games) is probably also a factor since Jae has even less time to get treatment on off days.

Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2016, 12:02:22 PM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?

He's banged up & he's trying to play through it.

What else do you want the guy to do at this point?  He cares & he's trying.  It sucks that he's not nearly as effective as he was during most of the regular season but outside a miracle in medical science, this is what we're stuck with at the moment.

What about game 4 performance then? Temporary miracle?

That he shot under his season average in points, FG%, 3P% in Game 4?

C'mon Triboy, at least do some research before you speak.  My god.

Even throwing the stats out, its apparent to anyone with a set of eyeballs that Crowder isn't totally right and just trying to grind it out.

He made shots in game 4. He couldn't in any other games prior

BTW if he was that injured how has he been playing defense at a high level?  moving fine on the defensive end, limping on the offensive end?

Come on donoghus

Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2016, 12:10:03 PM »

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I've noticed that as well.  He seems to be making plays on the ball where i've seen him slap balls away and get in passing lanes quite a bit.  His shot is not falling at all though. He had a 3 at the beginning of the game last night and a dunk on a roll to the basket then didn't do much the rest of the game. He seems to be getting healthier at least.  Hopefully he breaks out next game.

He looks a bit  gimpy moving around but was fairly active last game.  The other games he seemed like a complete no show at times.

I hope a breakout game is soon hopefully we can win game 6 and Crowder will be fully healed by game 7.

Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2016, 12:31:52 PM »

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Crowder is paid 6 million a year for a reason.

He is good defensive player but inconsistent on the offensive end. 

Had a good year but right now is the true set to determine if he is a legit starting material. And he is not

If shot doesn't fall (not a natural shooter), his other parts of the offensive game is predictable. Hawks taking away the right lane. Crowder has nowhere to go

This argument only holds if he isn't under or over paid

I think we can all agree he's underpaid, so this is really a moot point
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Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2016, 12:55:33 PM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?

He's banged up & he's trying to play through it.

What else do you want the guy to do at this point?  He cares & he's trying.  It sucks that he's not nearly as effective as he was during most of the regular season but outside a miracle in medical science, this is what we're stuck with at the moment.

What about game 4 performance then? Temporary miracle?

That he shot under his season average in points, FG%, 3P% in Game 4?

C'mon Triboy, at least do some research before you speak.  My god.

Even throwing the stats out, its apparent to anyone with a set of eyeballs that Crowder isn't totally right and just trying to grind it out.

He made shots in game 4. He couldn't in any other games prior

BTW if he was that injured how has he been playing defense at a high level?  moving fine on the defensive end, limping on the offensive end?

Come on donoghus
Really?!?!?!

Crowder is not moving well on the defensive end. He hasn't been playing in the shirt of his opponent like usual because he can't react as fast because of the ankle. He isn't jumping as high to effect outside shots. He is closing out on players slower. His opponents have blown by him regularly on drives. He hasn't played nearly as well defensively as he did when he was healthy in the regular season.

His play has been effected on both ends of the court. That's apparent to just about everyone.

He had a good game because when you have an injury and try to do things through the discomfort, sometimes you have very good days and a lot of the time you don't.

Complaining about injuries at this point is moot. They happen. You try your best to get through them but ultimately, they effect the outcomes of games and series. Always have, always will.

Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2016, 10:17:42 AM »

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Crowder finished with 3rd worst FG% in the playoffs (min 70 Att) in the last 50 years (.278).... it doesn't get much worse than that.

Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2016, 10:28:15 AM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?

Ankle sprains are serious, let's not pretend this was a sprained left pinky. I've played on a sprained ankle before. You can play through it, but your burst + change of direction suffers badly, and it takes forever to heal fully. I'm not worried about Crowder at all.

Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2016, 08:31:54 AM »

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If we knew Crowder was going to be this bad, would it have been better to not have played him until the playoffs, and given him at least one more week to heal?

Re: Why is jae so bad suddenly?
« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2016, 09:30:13 AM »

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Hampered by injury.

He can't keep using that as an excuse.

If he has a good game then xyz etc

If he has bad games he always has a way out with 'ankle injury bother'?

Ankle sprains are serious, let's not pretend this was a sprained left pinky. I've played on a sprained ankle before. You can play through it, but your burst + change of direction suffers badly, and it takes forever to heal fully. I'm not worried about Crowder at all.

Exactly.....high ankle sprains, in particular.

Smart struggled mightily for ALL of last year because of the one he suffered very early in the season. Both Smart and Criowder depend a lot on their aggressiveness,and you can't be tentative. But those high ankle sprains take a real long time to heal and will hamper the physicality that you need to be aggressive.