Is This Enough for Jimmy Butler?

[Geo123]

NOPE.  This year's Nets pick would have to be included.  Plus from what I hear Crowder would need to be included plus other assets.

[alewilliam789]

Trading '17 would be a mistake, that draft is going to be tight.  I'd trade BK if it's 3 or later for him, though.

I agree I wouldn't trade that pick unless I'm getting Boogie. Next year's top 3 is stacked and Brooklyn is headed towards despair again next year. An opportunity to land Markelle Fultz, Jayson Tatum, and Josh Jackson?? Sign me up!!

[loco_91]

Trading '17 would be a mistake, that draft is going to be tight.  I'd trade BK if it's 3 or later for him, though.

I agree I wouldn't trade that pick unless I'm getting Boogie. Next year's top 3 is stacked and Brooklyn is headed towards despair again next year. An opportunity to land Markelle Fultz, Jayson Tatum, and Josh Jackson?? Sign me up!!

Yeah, right now it's looking like a strong class. Giles in particular looks legit - he is quite an athlete

[kozlodoev]

NOPE.  This year's Nets pick would have to be included.  Plus from what I hear Crowder would need to be included plus other assets.

The Celtics already balked on including Crowder in a Butler deal at the deadline, so I guess that's a no.

[alldaboston]

NOPE.  This year's Nets pick would have to be included.  Plus from what I hear Crowder would need to be included plus other assets.

The Celtics already balked on including Crowder in a Butler deal at the deadline, so I guess that's a no.

If Danny heard from durant people that KD would come if we had Butler, then Danny better get it going.

[kozlodoev]

NOPE.  This year's Nets pick would have to be included.  Plus from what I hear Crowder would need to be included plus other assets.

The Celtics already balked on including Crowder in a Butler deal at the deadline, so I guess that's a no.

If Danny heard from durant people that KD would come if we had Butler, then Danny better get it going.

Yeah, Mannix said so so it must be true.

[Csfan1984]

I believe that AB, Crowder, 16th pick, and 31st pick is an okay deal for Butler. But you always have to overpay. Also think that is too far from the direction they are going if they move Butler. Have to believe they would be in rebuild mode and want 2016 Nets pick, Smart, and Crowder. Maybe there is something closer to fair value if team goes a different route else where. Don't feel Bulls are the right trade partner.

[ThaPreacher]

Why would Chicago trade him for a pile of picks and average talent? Butler is a two way stud. He hastily ask out for anything to happen.You pray you get a guy like him with just one of those picks but it's less than likely. Plus you have to have the best offer. We simply don't have the talent. Thomas is head and shoulders above any other player we have. Start with him? If that's the direction the celts want to go and Butler makes it clear he wants out and we might have a chance.

Chicago is in transition.  Need to build around Rose or build around Butler.  I'm actually surprised they aren't making DRose available. Butler is a stud, but where does he rank in terms of impact superstars.  How much is too much?
I think that Ainge has other fish he's baiting the hook for.

[flybono]

Butler is legit. Butler will only get better.

Nets #1 and any other player not named Thomas

[Csfan1984]

Why would Chicago trade him for a pile of picks and average talent? Butler is a two way stud. He hastily ask out for anything to happen.You pray you get a guy like him with just one of those picks but it's less than likely. Plus you have to have the best offer. We simply don't have the talent. Thomas is head and shoulders above any other player we have. Start with him? If that's the direction the celts want to go and Butler makes it clear he wants out and we might have a chance.

Chicago is in transition.  Need to build around Rose or build around Butler.  I'm actually surprised they aren't making DRose available. Butler is a stud, but where does he rank in terms of impact superstars.  How much is too much?
I think that Ainge has other fish he's baiting the hook for.

I think in today's NBA a team is happy with having one star to market. I think that means they want to keep one. But absolutely want to build through draft. Porzingis and Melo situation. Or KG and the pups. It's still a buisness. No one will take on Rose so Butler is the likely trade candidate. Rose and the young bulls.

[SHAQATTACK]

I don' how much of a real world chance it has actually happening ...I can see KD looking hard at a Celtics,team that has Bulter signed .   

I d trade Crowder for Bulter in a deal.


Smart is a future star. ......one of the tuffest guards in the NBA.   

[Big333223]

I don't blame Danny for not wanting to give up Crowder. He's a modern stretch 4 and pairing him with Butler could be devestating.

[hwangjini_1]

a bit of a bump, but this topic came up on SoSH earlier today. it is only a notch above CROTOR level perhaps, but SoSH is usually pretty stern with each other on rumors and some of them do have connections with sports writers and the the celtics.

they are rediscussing the rumor about ainge targeting a player and the other team backing out. according to SoSH that player was NOT okafer, but was butler. see below.
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ElcaballitoMVP said: ↑
I had some inside info from a Boston sports reporter that matched up with what bowiac has posted and we PM'd to confirm stories. Butler was one of the targets and one I also expect to be revisited on draft day.

The lowball offer was reportedly for Love (saw that on RealGM). I didn't see that we lowballed an offer for Butler, although since a deal didn't get made maybe the Bulls thought so
The comment I remember was that Ainge's offer for Butler included no starters and no Brooklyn picks, and that the Bulls considered it a lowball offer.
 
#873Sprowl, Today at 11:57 AM


http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/celtics-draft-pick-watch-2016.11764/page-18

[notthebowler]

a bit of a bump, but this topic came up on SoSH earlier today. it is only a notch above CROTOR level perhaps, but SoSH is usually pretty stern with each other on rumors and some of them do have connections with sports writers and the the celtics.

they are rediscussing the rumor about ainge targeting a player and the other team backing out. according to SoSH that player was NOT okafer, but was butler. see below.
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ElcaballitoMVP said: ↑
I had some inside info from a Boston sports reporter that matched up with what bowiac has posted and we PM'd to confirm stories. Butler was one of the targets and one I also expect to be revisited on draft day.

The lowball offer was reportedly for Love (saw that on RealGM). I didn't see that we lowballed an offer for Butler, although since a deal didn't get made maybe the Bulls thought so
The comment I remember was that Ainge's offer for Butler included no starters and no Brooklyn picks, and that the Bulls considered it a lowball offer.
 
#873Sprowl, Today at 11:57 AM


http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/celtics-draft-pick-watch-2016.11764/page-18

Okay, I have to know the context of the nickname used for DeMar DeRozan in post #857 of the linked thread.  A TP to anyone who can explain.

[celticsclay]

a bit of a bump, but this topic came up on SoSH earlier today. it is only a notch above CROTOR level perhaps, but SoSH is usually pretty stern with each other on rumors and some of them do have connections with sports writers and the the celtics.

they are rediscussing the rumor about ainge targeting a player and the other team backing out. according to SoSH that player was NOT okafer, but was butler. see below.
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ElcaballitoMVP said: ↑
I had some inside info from a Boston sports reporter that matched up with what bowiac has posted and we PM'd to confirm stories. Butler was one of the targets and one I also expect to be revisited on draft day.

The lowball offer was reportedly for Love (saw that on RealGM). I didn't see that we lowballed an offer for Butler, although since a deal didn't get made maybe the Bulls thought so
The comment I remember was that Ainge's offer for Butler included no starters and no Brooklyn picks, and that the Bulls considered it a lowball offer.
 
#873Sprowl, Today at 11:57 AM


http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/celtics-draft-pick-watch-2016.11764/page-18

Okay, I have to know the context of the nickname used for DeMar DeRozan in post #857 of the linked thread.  A TP to anyone who can explain.

I was pretty sure Larbrd proved and other posters had confirmed beyond reasonable doubt it was for Okafor. Something like 20 pages of hard evidence.