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Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2016, 08:35:11 AM »

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This Zubac kid sounds raw, but might be a draft and stash option as well.

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Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2016, 08:44:12 AM »

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I really like Zizic. From DX:

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He gets quite a bit of his offense rolling and cutting to the basket, where he has excellent timing, hands and touch and will often finish plays above the rim emphatically, which he seems to enjoy doing. His effort on the court might be the best thing he offers, as he is incredibly physical...

He's also a willing and competitive defender...

needs to continue to improve his offensive polish, particularly in terms of his footwork, awareness and ability to use countermoves when his initial attempts are cut off...

just 15 assists on the season, compared with 66 turnovers...

The success that other highly productive Adriatic League big men, such as Nikola Pekovic, Nikola Jokic and Jusuf Nurkic, are having in the NBA right now should help his draft stock, as he's been similarly productive to those three at the same age.

Indeed, I think he actually has better physical tools than any of Pekovic, Jokic and Nurkic. He's big, strong, long, and athletic. He could easily be a candidate with the Mavs pick (although I still like Jeanne a bit better).

Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2016, 08:59:50 AM »

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DE thinks Jeanne will be in next year's draft.

Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2016, 09:01:48 AM »

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This Zubac kid sounds raw, but might be a draft and stash option as well.

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Zubac and zipser (who is like a Jerebko)

Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2016, 09:31:28 AM »

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This Zubac kid sounds raw, but might be a draft and stash option as well.

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If Thon Maker is eligible he will likely go in the same range (20-30). Who would be a better draft and stash with our pick? Maker or Zizic.

I think Zizic has the chance of being a late round steal like a Vucevic, Jocic, or Nurkic.
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Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2016, 09:40:13 AM »

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im surprised no ones talked about him
On draftexpress he is listed at #25 below Zubac
I think he is better than zubac despite lacking zubac's athleticism and physical tools
And much more likely to become at least serviceable player compared to bender

he just needs more offensive polishing and needs to pass better
already a great rebounder and good defender around the rim and perimeter
I agree. Zizic looks like a considerably better prospect than Zubac. From that part of the draft, I'd like Zizic or Sabonis -- not interested in Zimmerman or Stone.
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Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2016, 09:53:28 AM »

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im surprised no ones talked about him
On draftexpress he is listed at #25 below Zubac
I think he is better than zubac despite lacking zubac's athleticism and physical tools
And much more likely to become at least serviceable player compared to bender

he just needs more offensive polishing and needs to pass better
already a great rebounder and good defender around the rim and perimeter
I agree. Zizic looks like a considerably better prospect than Zubac. From that part of the draft, I'd like Zizic or Sabonis -- not interested in Zimmerman or Stone.
Can you explain liking Zizic over Zubac? I read scouting reports on both and it seemed like Zubac's game fits in the modern NBA more than Zizic, but since all I've read are scouting reports I'd love to have your opinion and could be easily convinced.
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Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2016, 12:23:53 PM »

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I have stated on posts before then I really like the idea of Bender with the Nets pick and Zizic with the Cs pick. Long term it can only help their development being together.

Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2016, 01:01:30 PM »

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This Zubac kid sounds raw, but might be a draft and stash option as well.

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Zubac and zipser (who is like a Jerebko)

Triboy, would like your list of top big men in this draft, in order.  I guess Sabonis is your favorite, if you call him a big. What is your order after that??

Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2016, 01:04:26 PM »

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I'm interested in Juan Hernangomez

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Halfway through the ACB regular season, it's safe to say that 20-year old Juan Hernangomez (also called Juancho Hernangomez) has been the revelation of the Spanish league thus far. The 6'9 face-up power forward is putting up historic numbers with Estudiantes for a player his age. His 11.3 points ranks as the highest per game scoring average for a player under 21 since Rudy Fernandez's 13.7 ten years ago. Additionally, his 20.6 PER ranks is second best in the last decade as well (behind Nikola Mirotic), eclipsing some big names (Ricky Rubio, Tiago Splitter, Serge Ibaka, Kristaps Porzingis, Ersan Ilyasova, and his older brother Guillermo/Willy [drafted by the Knicks last June]) in the process so far.
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Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2016, 01:19:55 PM »

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im surprised no ones talked about him
On draftexpress he is listed at #25 below Zubac
I think he is better than zubac despite lacking zubac's athleticism and physical tools
And much more likely to become at least serviceable player compared to bender

he just needs more offensive polishing and needs to pass better
already a great rebounder and good defender around the rim and perimeter
I agree. Zizic looks like a considerably better prospect than Zubac. From that part of the draft, I'd like Zizic or Sabonis -- not interested in Zimmerman or Stone.
Can you explain liking Zizic over Zubac? I read scouting reports on both and it seemed like Zubac's game fits in the modern NBA more than Zizic, but since all I've read are scouting reports I'd love to have your opinion and could be easily convinced.
Zizic seems to have been the more productive player in the same league. Also, I like big men who play with effort ;) Also not sure what to make of the potential NBA transition of someone who is considered a late bloomer in a second-tier European league.

I've only taken a very cursory look on both though, so perhaps take me with a grain of salt here.
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Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2016, 01:21:33 PM »

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I'm interested in Juan Hernangomez

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Halfway through the ACB regular season, it's safe to say that 20-year old Juan Hernangomez (also called Juancho Hernangomez) has been the revelation of the Spanish league thus far. The 6'9 face-up power forward is putting up historic numbers with Estudiantes for a player his age. His 11.3 points ranks as the highest per game scoring average for a player under 21 since Rudy Fernandez's 13.7 ten years ago. Additionally, his 20.6 PER ranks is second best in the last decade as well (behind Nikola Mirotic), eclipsing some big names (Ricky Rubio, Tiago Splitter, Serge Ibaka, Kristaps Porzingis, Ersan Ilyasova, and his older brother Guillermo/Willy [drafted by the Knicks last June]) in the process so far.

Can he play defense or pass the ball?

Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2016, 01:27:09 PM »

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how does this kid compare to sabonis,ellenson,poeltli
is zizic 6-10? do these players come in for workouts?
rollie, he is 6' 11"
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someone else to look at, another euro, ranked right next to zizic on draftexpress is:

ivica zubac, 7' 1"
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ivica-Zubac-73314/

the Zs are out in force this year.  ;D
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Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2016, 01:31:20 PM »

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I'm interested in Juan Hernangomez

Quote from: DraftExpress
Halfway through the ACB regular season, it's safe to say that 20-year old Juan Hernangomez (also called Juancho Hernangomez) has been the revelation of the Spanish league thus far. The 6'9 face-up power forward is putting up historic numbers with Estudiantes for a player his age. His 11.3 points ranks as the highest per game scoring average for a player under 21 since Rudy Fernandez's 13.7 ten years ago. Additionally, his 20.6 PER ranks is second best in the last decade as well (behind Nikola Mirotic), eclipsing some big names (Ricky Rubio, Tiago Splitter, Serge Ibaka, Kristaps Porzingis, Ersan Ilyasova, and his older brother Guillermo/Willy [drafted by the Knicks last June]) in the process so far.
yes, he pulled out of the draft last year and i had been hoping the celtics would pick him. greece666 also thinks highly of hernangomez.

he doesnt appear to be nba all star material, but as a late first round pick i think he will become a solid rotation player. i think his varied skill set will fit in well with CBS' schemes.

here is more info on him:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Juan-Hernangomez-73096/
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Re: Forget Bender, Draft Ante Zizic
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2016, 02:51:44 PM »

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I'm interested in Juan Hernangomez

Quote from: DraftExpress
Halfway through the ACB regular season, it's safe to say that 20-year old Juan Hernangomez (also called Juancho Hernangomez) has been the revelation of the Spanish league thus far. The 6'9 face-up power forward is putting up historic numbers with Estudiantes for a player his age. His 11.3 points ranks as the highest per game scoring average for a player under 21 since Rudy Fernandez's 13.7 ten years ago. Additionally, his 20.6 PER ranks is second best in the last decade as well (behind Nikola Mirotic), eclipsing some big names (Ricky Rubio, Tiago Splitter, Serge Ibaka, Kristaps Porzingis, Ersan Ilyasova, and his older brother Guillermo/Willy [drafted by the Knicks last June]) in the process so far.


Any word if he is a stash candidate?
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