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2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« on: April 06, 2016, 07:17:04 PM »

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We are underway!


Sox looked good yesterday in Cleveland.  Price is a breath of fresh air.


Today ... ugh.


Why is Buccholz still on this team?  I feel like I wonder that same thing every year.  So tired of watching his ups and downs.  How is he the #2 starter?  That doesn't bode well.  He should be a wild card #5, if he even has to be in the rotation on this team at all.
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2016, 07:25:40 PM »

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It's a real problem when Clay Bucholz is your number 2... I get that in reality Rodriguez is the number 2 but it's bad that the lineup is so bad after Price that one injury and Clay is the number 2...

Once again pitching will be the achilles of this team, even with Price and a strong bullpen.

Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2016, 07:27:16 PM »

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We are underway!


Sox looked good yesterday in Cleveland.  Price is a breath of fresh air.


Today ... ugh.


Why is Buccholz still on this team?  I feel like I wonder that same thing every year.  So tired of watching his ups and downs.  How is he the #2 starter?  That doesn't bode well.  He should be a wild card #5, if he even has to be in the rotation on this team at all.

TP for starting the thread.

I'm excited for the new season, but like you I'm disappointed with Buchholz. He's injured half the time (literally), which makes his clunkers (like today) all the more disappointing, because you know he's not going to get a ton of starts. Rodriguez is actually the No. 2 starter but he's injured right now; the sooner he gets back, the better.
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2016, 07:30:52 PM »

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It's a real problem when Clay Bucholz is your number 2... I get that in reality Rodriguez is the number 2 but it's bad that the lineup is so bad after Price that one injury and Clay is the number 2...

Once again pitching will be the achilles of this team, even with Price and a strong bullpen.

Yeah.


Ace + average pitchers + great bullpen is a good formula.  I'm not gonna go all gloom and doom because the Sox aren't loaded with aces.

But I'm not sure which of these starters after Price the Sox can actually depend on to get through five innings in any given night without putting the game out of reach. 

So this looks like the same basic team we had last year (where seemingly every night was a depressing adventure), only with an ace at the top of the rotation to stabilize things a bit.


I guess we're really betting big on Porcello to bounce back and Owens and Rodriguez to mature quickly into middle of the rotation starters.
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2016, 07:34:19 PM »

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It's a real problem when Clay Bucholz is your number 2... I get that in reality Rodriguez is the number 2 but it's bad that the lineup is so bad after Price that one injury and Clay is the number 2...

Once again pitching will be the achilles of this team, even with Price and a strong bullpen.

Price was a big get, but they didn't really address the rest of the rotation. Buchholz has been mostly a disappointment, Joe Kelly had a good spring but I don't see him ever being more than a 12-14-win guy, Rick Porcello was a HUGE disappointment last year, and not too much is ever expected out of a No. 5 starter, which in this case is Stephen Wright. Presuming E-Rod returns soon and continues to improve, Boston might still need to go shopping for a better No. 3 option at the trade deadline (presuming they're in contention).
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 07:37:20 PM »

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I think Price - ERod - Owens - Kelly - Porcello could be good enough if the two young guys can stay on the field and become more consistent, and Kelly / Porcello hew more toward average than combustible (last year it was the other way round).

At the very least, the defense behind these guys should be excellent now that Hanley is kept on first where he can do the least damage and Sandoval is on the bench.
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 07:50:48 PM »

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It's a real problem when Clay Bucholz is your number 2... I get that in reality Rodriguez is the number 2 but it's bad that the lineup is so bad after Price that one injury and Clay is the number 2...

Once again pitching will be the achilles of this team, even with Price and a strong bullpen.

Yeah.


Ace + average pitchers + great bullpen is a good formula.  I'm not gonna go all gloom and doom because the Sox aren't loaded with aces.

But I'm not sure which of these starters after Price the Sox can actually depend on to get through five innings in any given night without putting the game out of reach. 

So this looks like the same basic team we had last year (where seemingly every night was a depressing adventure), only with an ace at the top of the rotation to stabilize things a bit.


I guess we're really betting big on Porcello to bounce back and Owens and Rodriguez to mature quickly into middle of the rotation starters.

I think that's the hope... I'm not going to lie I have less faith in Porcello than Clay... Hopefully Owens can be a decent starter. I really hope they can make a trade for Shields, he'd be a good inning eater #3 behind Price and Rodriguez.

Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2016, 08:50:29 PM »

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Great work by Noe Ramirez. Ugh. I feel like Charlie Brown when he asked if there was anyone who knew the true meaning of Christmas: "Isn't there any Red Sox pitcher today who doesn't stink?"
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2016, 09:11:28 PM »

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I'm really surprised and impressed with Hanley.  He's noticeably thinner, looks good at first, and is swinging the bat well. 
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2016, 10:16:50 PM »

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Everyone remain calm- at least Justin "Give up 8 runs a game" Masterson is no longer a part of the rotation/ballclub at all whatsoever. E Rod comes back in a month and we'll have more fun watching this team without getting gray hairs everywhere from panicking over the starting rotation.

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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2016, 11:13:16 PM »

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Everyone remain calm- at least Justin "Give up 8 runs a game" Masterson is no longer a part of the rotation/ballclub at all whatsoever. E Rod comes back in a month and we'll have more fun watching this team without getting gray hairs everywhere from panicking over the starting rotation.

It's not just the rotation—any Sox reliever not named Kimbrel or Uehara is a total crapshoot.
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2016, 08:08:11 PM »

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Almost the same team but different vibe this season.  David Price addition/able to rely on an ace is huge. 

Travis Shaw is a stud. 

Pandoval is what is wrong with FA and baseball.  What a lazy bum.  Doesn't look like he cares about wanting to win or be the best he can be.  Already won a ring, rich as hell. I don't care if I chill in the dugout.   

Out of Pandoval ,  things are looking good.   The closer is amazing.   

I still don't like Bucholz as the #2 , but we will see what happens.   Hopefully Erod is back soon

this team has a chance to go far this far.  It will be a great ending for Ortiz

Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2016, 05:22:06 PM »

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Everyone remain calm- at least Justin "Give up 8 runs a game" Masterson is no longer a part of the rotation/ballclub at all whatsoever. E Rod comes back in a month and we'll have more fun watching this team without getting gray hairs everywhere from panicking over the starting rotation.

It's not just the rotation—any Sox reliever not named Kimbrel or Uehara is a total crapshoot.

So, after today, I guess I need to amend my above statement to: Any Sox reliever not named Kimbrel is a crapshoot.

Price was awful today, and Kimbrel gave up a 3-run homer. It's looking more and more like Boston's going to have to score 7 or 8 runs a game to have a chance.
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2016, 06:12:35 PM »

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Price was awful today, and Kimbrel gave up a 3-run homer. It's looking more and more like Boston's going to have to score 7 or 8 runs a game to have a chance.

Good news is, they seem capable of scoring 5-8 runs a game no problem.  Heh.
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Re: 2016 Red Sox Regular Season
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2016, 06:18:38 PM »

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Pretty much a picture perfect recipe for worst case opening day doom and gloom.  Maybe Hanley running off the bases thinking there were 3 outs or Sandoval showing up in a dump uniform?

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