Poll: #4 overall pick for Jabari Parker

[KG Living Legend]

 
 We could use Parker well here, he's a great potential stretch 4 with his oversized body and shooting touch. Plus he gives us Crowder Insurance at the SF position.

 Could also potentially be a go to guy. It's nice that he's 6'8". We could use another talented bug body like that.

[KG Living Legend]

 What say you.

[Denis998]

That would be great. Parker is a great player.

[KG Living Legend]

 Middleton, Parker, Gianni's. You would think someone needs to go. Not Gianni's. Return for Middleton would be just OK.

 Funniest thing when looking at the numbers.

 Marcus Smart is a better three point shooter than Parker so far!

 Smart's career is .295% and his rookie year was .335%

 Parker career is .256% his best year this one .259%

[slamtheking]

Middleton, Parker, Gianni's. You would think someone needs to go. Not Gianni's. Return for Middleton would be just OK.

 Funniest thing when looking at the numbers.

 Marcus Smart is a better three point shooter than Parker so far!

 Smart's career is .295% and his rookie year was .335%

 Parker career is .256% his best year this one .259%

well that's not very good.  curious if his % has climbed during the season, been steady or declined. 

I'd do the deal because no one at 4 in this draft is projected to be as good as Parker's projected to be.  We could also use the depth as SF behind, and eventually in front of, Crowder.

although, considering he's not lighting the league on fire in his second season, I would look into obtaining him for less than a #4 pick.

[PhoSita]

Middleton, Parker, Gianni's. You would think someone needs to go. Not Gianni's. Return for Middleton would be just OK.

 Funniest thing when looking at the numbers.

 Marcus Smart is a better three point shooter than Parker so far!

 Smart's career is .295% and his rookie year was .335%

 Parker career is .256% his best year this one .259%

well that's not very good.  curious if his % has climbed during the season, been steady or declined. 

I'd do the deal because no one at 4 in this draft is projected to be as good as Parker's projected to be.  We could also use the depth as SF behind, and eventually in front of, Crowder.

although, considering he's not lighting the league on fire in his second season, I would look into obtaining him for less than a #4 pick.

Parker has attempted 43 three pointers in his career.

Smart has attempted nearly 500.

What that suggests is that Smart is more uh ... confident ... in his outside shot.  It also means there's a meaningful sample that tells us this is probably what we can expect from Smart at least for a few years, hopefully with gradual improvement.


Whereas Jabari hasn't really worked the three pointer into his game much except for attempting one or two a game the last few months.

Jabari might not be lighting the league on fire, but he's been averaging over 17 points and over 6 rebounds per game since the start of February.

Considering that this is a pseudo-rookie season for Jabari, he's looking pretty decent, though he appears to be more of a Thad Young / Paul Millsap type 4 as opposed to a Paul Pierce / Carmelo Anthony type 3 that he was billed as coming out of college.


I'd much prefer to have Jabari over any of the guys that look like they'll be in the mix for the #4 pick in this draft.

[slamtheking]

Middleton, Parker, Gianni's. You would think someone needs to go. Not Gianni's. Return for Middleton would be just OK.

 Funniest thing when looking at the numbers.

 Marcus Smart is a better three point shooter than Parker so far!

 Smart's career is .295% and his rookie year was .335%

 Parker career is .256% his best year this one .259%

well that's not very good.  curious if his % has climbed during the season, been steady or declined. 

I'd do the deal because no one at 4 in this draft is projected to be as good as Parker's projected to be.  We could also use the depth as SF behind, and eventually in front of, Crowder.

although, considering he's not lighting the league on fire in his second season, I would look into obtaining him for less than a #4 pick.

Parker has attempted 43 three pointers in his career.

Smart has attempted nearly 500.

What that suggests is that Smart is more uh ... confident ... in his outside shot.  It also means there's a meaningful sample that tells us this is probably what we can expect from Smart at least for a few years, hopefully with gradual improvement.


Whereas Jabari hasn't really worked the three pointer into his game much except for attempting one or two a game the last few months.

Jabari might not be lighting the league on fire, but he's been averaging over 17 points and over 6 rebounds per game since the start of February.

Considering that this is a pseudo-rookie season for Jabari, he's looking pretty decent, though he appears to be more of a Thad Young / Paul Millsap type 4 as opposed to a Paul Pierce / Carmelo Anthony type 3 that he was billed as coming out of college.


I'd much prefer to have Jabari over any of the guys that look like they'll be in the mix for the #4 pick in this draft.

well that would go to the idea that he's improved as the season has progressed so that makes the  deal much more palatable.

Not sure if I'd be too keen on getting Thad or Milsap-level player with a #4 pick.  Think that speaks volumes about the quality of this year's draft.

[mmmmm]

Middleton, Parker, Gianni's. You would think someone needs to go. Not Gianni's. Return for Middleton would be just OK.

 Funniest thing when looking at the numbers.

 Marcus Smart is a better three point shooter than Parker so far!

 Smart's career is .295% and his rookie year was .335%

 Parker career is .256% his best year this one .259%

Parker has taken a grand total of just 43 3PA in his NBA career so far, so I wouldn't read too much into that .259 number.   He shot 38 of 106 on threes in college (.358).

Smart, on the other hand, has taken 499 3PA in the NBA in order to reach his .295 number and that follows two seasons in college when he took 295 threes, also hitting those at a .295 rate.

More relevant than the 3PT% is overall efficiency.  Smart's career eFG is .432 and his career TS is .475 (and both numbers are worse this year).   Parker's career eFG is .502 and his career TS is .541.

[gift]

I'd gladly take Parker in exchange for the #4 pick.

[Tr1boy]

Hell no. Maybe with the mavs pick.

Parker is overrated.   No defense Parker. No way

[PhoSita]

Not sure if I'd be too keen on getting Thad or Milsap-level player with a #4 pick.  Think that speaks volumes about the quality of this year's draft.

Either you like Millsap a lot less than I do, or you have a much higher opinion of Jaylen Brown / Kris Dunn / Jamal Murray / Buddy Hield.

[LarBrd33]

I think that ship has sailed.  Parker has been sensational since the all-star break.  Where would he go in this draft?  2nd?

[Dino Pitino]

Jabari might not be lighting the league on fire, but he's been averaging over 17 points and over 6 rebounds per game since the start of February.

In over 36.8 minutes a game! Only by a hair, but unlike every other such prospect, those numbers would be adjusted down per 36. He's played, like, the 3rd most minutes per game in the league in that span.

[LarBrd33]

Middleton, Parker, Gianni's. You would think someone needs to go. Not Gianni's. Return for Middleton would be just OK.

 Funniest thing when looking at the numbers.

 Marcus Smart is a better three point shooter than Parker so far!

 Smart's career is .295% and his rookie year was .335%

 Parker career is .256% his best year this one .259%

Parker had a major injury.   Since the all-star break:  19.2 points, 6.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1.3 steals, 51%/35%/80%

Smart since the all-star break:  8.1 points, 4.5 rebounds, 2.9 assists, 1.3 steals, 32%/17%/79%

Hard to say a guy shooting 17% from three is a "better" 3-point shooter.

Parker is unquestionably a better shooter/scorer. 

[jambr380]

Not sure if I'd be too keen on getting Thad or Milsap-level player with a #4 pick.  Think that speaks volumes about the quality of this year's draft.

Either you like Millsap a lot less than I do, or you have a much higher opinion of Jaylen Brown / Kris Dunn / Jamal Murray / Buddy Hield.

I would be much more interested in a Millsap-level player than a Thad-level player for that #4 pick. Millsap is statistically better and on a far superior team. Thad is decent, but has always been on that 'Jeff Green tier' and you can't trade a top lotto pick for that.