Trade idea poll Knicks and Kings.

[Csfan1984]

I know some want to talk about Cousins to the C's but I can't help feel Knicks and Kings is a perfect deal for both clubs. Assuming it's Lopez and Porzingis for Cousins only would either team balk? Also Knicks could then add Rondo in FA while Kings can attempt to draft Dunn with their draft pick. If this was done on draft night only when Dunn was sure to be available at Kings pick it would be great for Kings IMO.

Possible Kings team would rival Wolves as a big time upstart team with Dunn, McLemore, Gay, Porzingis, and WCS.

Knicks will be a force again with Rondo, Affalo, Melo, Williams, and Cousins.

[Who]

Yes -- but I kinda feel NYC should get something more. In addition to Cousins. Since I don't think anybody else will be offering any individual talent as talented as Porzingis is. Maybe NYC takes Rudy Gay as well and Knicks throw something else back. Maybe Afflalo.

[PhoSita]

No.  Knicks have a great opportunity right now with a feel-good fan favorite in Porzingis who is still very young.  They should be focused on building up a fun, competitive young team around KP.  Rejuvenate the Knicks brand as a team that will be competitive and entertaining for years to come.  Enough of the year-to-year boom or bust cycle with that club.

They should figure out if Melo is open to considering a trade to another big market competitor, e.g. Washington, Miami, or Chicago.  If he is, then try to get the maximum return for him.  If not, plan to have him retire a Knick, and think in terms of prolonging his ability to play at a high level by resting him and not playing him heavy minutes.

Either way, they should explore all of their options for acquiring relatively young talent that can complement Porzingis and grow around him.

In terms of big name acquisitions, they should look at relatively young superstars on teams that are floundering right now, who will be entering unrestricted free agency for the first time right around the time Porzingis is entering his prime.  The two names that come to mind for me are Anthony Davis and John Wall.   They should try to have a solid foundation in place, with a flourishing and happy Porzingis, by the time players like that are hitting the market.


The last thing they should do is trade the first exciting super-young possible-franchise-talent they've had in over a decade for a combustible big like Demarcus Cousins.  I really hate the idea of having Rondo as part of the package.


Rondo, Melo, Cousins.  Woof.  The potential for lack of effort, bad body language, lack of leadership skills,  etc with that trio leading the way is extraordinary.  Good luck to whoever tries to coach that team.

[Csfan1984]

Yes -- but I kinda feel NYC should get something more. In addition to Cousins. Since I don't think anybody else will be offering any individual talent as talented as Porzingis is. Maybe NYC takes Rudy Gay as well and Knicks throw something else back. Maybe Afflalo.

That is an interesting idea. You are right things could be further expanded given the rosters. TP

[Csfan1984]

No.  Knicks have a great opportunity right now with a feel-good fan favorite in Porzingis who is still very young.  They should be focused on building up a fun, competitive young team around KP.  Rejuvenate the Knicks brand as a team that will be competitive and entertaining for years to come.  Enough of the year-to-year boom or bust cycle with that club.

They should figure out if Melo is open to considering a trade to another big market competitor, e.g. Washington, Miami, or Chicago.  If he is, then try to get the maximum return for him.  If not, plan to have him retire a Knick, and think in terms of prolonging his ability to play at a high level by resting him and not playing him heavy minutes.

Either way, they should explore all of their options for acquiring relatively young talent that can complement Porzingis and grow around him.

In terms of big name acquisitions, they should look at relatively young superstars on teams that are floundering right now, who will be entering unrestricted free agency for the first time right around the time Porzingis is entering his prime.  The two names that come to mind for me are Anthony Davis and John Wall.   They should try to have a solid foundation in place, with a flourishing and happy Porzingis, by the time players like that are hitting the market.


The last thing they should do is trade the first exciting super-young possible-franchise-talent they've had in over a decade for a combustible big like Demarcus Cousins.

The way you put it that would kind of make Cousins untradeable. If you cant get a promising young stud for a top 10 player things are seriously wrong.

Also TP you had some good analysis on few post recently.

[PhoSita]

The way you put it that would kind of make Cousins untradeable. If you cant get a promising young stud for a top 10 player things are seriously wrong.

I'm not saying that the Kings shouldn't expect to receive a player like Porzingis in return for Cousins, I'm just saying I think it'd be a bad idea for the Knicks to make that trade, all things considered.

[CFAN38]

Not that he would allow it but to me a Melo, Lopez and a future 1st for Cousins trade seems like it may make more sense if he bought in long term Cousins and prizingus could be scary good

[guava_wrench]

Not that he would allow it but to me a Melo, Lopez and a future 1st for Cousins trade seems like it may make more sense if he bought in long term Cousins and prizingus could be scary good

That offer would like get outbid by another team.

[TheSundanceKid]

The way you put it that would kind of make Cousins untradeable. If you cant get a promising young stud for a top 10 player things are seriously wrong.

I'm not saying that the Kings shouldn't expect to receive a player like Porzingis in return for Cousins, I'm just saying I think it'd be a bad idea for the Knicks to make that trade, all things considered.

Kind if feels like a Knicks trade though

[PhoSita]

The way you put it that would kind of make Cousins untradeable. If you cant get a promising young stud for a top 10 player things are seriously wrong.

I'm not saying that the Kings shouldn't expect to receive a player like Porzingis in return for Cousins, I'm just saying I think it'd be a bad idea for the Knicks to make that trade, all things considered.

Kind if feels like a Knicks trade though

Yeah, feels like the sort of thing they used to do.  Maybe they've finally learned.  Who knows?