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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #120 on: April 03, 2016, 01:08:18 PM »

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"I love Buddy. But I've loved him as sort of a late lottery pick," said one NBA general manager (who was watching from home). "If you draft him as a specialist, I think he's great value".

"He might turn into more than that given his work ethic. But if you draft him to be Steph Curry, I think you're going to be disappointed. I think the tournament may be overinflating his worth a bit."

"I hope today's game puts things in perspective," the GM continued. "When he's faced with the strength and athleticism and length of the defenders in this league, I think there are going to be some big adjustments for him."

Asked for Hield's ceiling, the same GM told me Ben Gordon. Asked for his floor? Jimmer Fredette.

sure re: this made up GM Ford is talking about

A smart GM does not base a major draft stock drop because of 1 game.   And especially if that guy that carried Oklahoma to the final four. Think about that for a second.   How many athletic, longer wingspan defenders did he face to get to yesterdays game? Syracuse is not the only team with good defenders in the league

Like someone else mentioned, Hield probably needed 2 more big games to really get GMs thinking of high he can go.   As senior and all the critics watching him,  he was not going to get a break. 

Reading some posters perspective on Simmons, Ingram etc.  there seems like there is no "sure" thing from this draft.    No Karl Towns this year (or unknown).   Heck someone from 10-20 could turn out to be the best from this draft.  Like a Brice Johnson. 

 This is going to be a fun draft to see unfold on draft night and in a year or two

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #121 on: April 03, 2016, 01:11:48 PM »

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"I love Buddy. But I've loved him as sort of a late lottery pick," said one NBA general manager (who was watching from home). "If you draft him as a specialist, I think he's great value".

"He might turn into more than that given his work ethic. But if you draft him to be Steph Curry, I think you're going to be disappointed. I think the tournament may be overinflating his worth a bit."

"I hope today's game puts things in perspective," the GM continued. "When he's faced with the strength and athleticism and length of the defenders in this league, I think there are going to be some big adjustments for him."

Asked for Hield's ceiling, the same GM told me Ben Gordon. Asked for his floor? Jimmer Fredette.

sure re: this made up GM Ford is talking about

A smart GM does not base a major draft stock drop because of 1 game.   And especially if that guy that carried Oklahoma to the final four. Think about that for a second.   How many athletic, longer wingspan defenders did he face to get to yesterdays game? Syracuse is not the only team with good defenders in the league

Like someone else mentioned, Hield probably needed 2 more big games to really get GMs thinking of high he can go.   As senior and all the critics watching him,  he was not going to get a break. 

Reading some posters perspective on Simmons, Ingram etc.  there seems like there is no "sure" thing from this draft.    No Karl Towns this year (or not sure if there is).   Heck someone from 10-20 could turn out to be the best from this draft.  Like a Brice Johnson. 

 This is going to be a fun draft to see unfold on draft night and in a year or two
 

Here we go....

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #122 on: April 03, 2016, 01:49:07 PM »

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"I love Buddy. But I've loved him as sort of a late lottery pick," said one NBA general manager (who was watching from home). "If you draft him as a specialist, I think he's great value".

"He might turn into more than that given his work ethic. But if you draft him to be Steph Curry, I think you're going to be disappointed. I think the tournament may be overinflating his worth a bit."

"I hope today's game puts things in perspective," the GM continued. "When he's faced with the strength and athleticism and length of the defenders in this league, I think there are going to be some big adjustments for him."

Asked for Hield's ceiling, the same GM told me Ben Gordon. Asked for his floor? Jimmer Fredette.

sure re: this made up GM Ford is talking about

A smart GM does not base a major draft stock drop because of 1 game.
   
Like someone else mentioned, Hield probably needed 2 more big games to really get GMs thinking of high he can go.   As senior and all the critics watching him,  he was not going to get a break. 


That GM was not forming an opinion based on one game.

He was providing perspective for those who do over-react and base their opinions on the short term.

You know, like people who start talking about him as a #1 pick because he had a good tourney run.


Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2016, 02:01:33 PM »

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"I love Buddy. But I've loved him as sort of a late lottery pick," said one NBA general manager (who was watching from home). "If you draft him as a specialist, I think he's great value".

"He might turn into more than that given his work ethic. But if you draft him to be Steph Curry, I think you're going to be disappointed. I think the tournament may be overinflating his worth a bit."

"I hope today's game puts things in perspective," the GM continued. "When he's faced with the strength and athleticism and length of the defenders in this league, I think there are going to be some big adjustments for him."

Asked for Hield's ceiling, the same GM told me Ben Gordon. Asked for his floor? Jimmer Fredette.

sure re: this made up GM Ford is talking about

A smart GM does not base a major draft stock drop because of 1 game.   And especially if that guy that carried Oklahoma to the final four. Think about that for a second.   How many athletic, longer wingspan defenders did he face to get to yesterdays game? Syracuse is not the only team with good defenders in the league

Like someone else mentioned, Hield probably needed 2 more big games to really get GMs thinking of high he can go.   As senior and all the critics watching him,  he was not going to get a break. 

Reading some posters perspective on Simmons, Ingram etc.  there seems like there is no "sure" thing from this draft.    No Karl Towns this year (or unknown).   Heck someone from 10-20 could turn out to be the best from this draft.  Like a Brice Johnson. 

 This is going to be a fun draft to see unfold on draft night and in a year or two

A smart GM also doesn't overdraft a guy based on a strong tournament appearance.


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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2016, 02:13:35 PM »

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Sometimes true  winners are over looked .....like Crowder and Draymomd Green or Butler ......not MJ types ...but guys that played within a system did their jobs in College .....can do more,in the correct environment.

That said ....I kinda wonder if a player or two on the North Carolina team maybe overlooked .....because showing basketball and team play is the order of the day .


Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #125 on: April 03, 2016, 02:13:46 PM »

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0% chance, he shouldn't go top 5 imo

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #126 on: April 03, 2016, 03:20:46 PM »

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Brown has much more upside

Sure, but is he an NBA player?
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #127 on: April 03, 2016, 03:24:49 PM »

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Brown has much more upside

Sure, but is he an NBA player?

Looks like an athlete masked as an NBA player . like wcs

Not sold on him yet

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #128 on: April 03, 2016, 04:25:24 PM »

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Hield going #1 would be crazy... Simmons/Ingram has far more potential... This isn't like Steph Curry 2.0 all over again, because Curry was heavily touted as a good point guard with the score first mentality as a 'SG,' and Hield cannot break down defenses that easily against stronger and lankier defenders like Curry can.
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #129 on: April 08, 2016, 05:56:25 PM »

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I just watched an interview with this kid on Nba:The Jump.

Wow, what a nice, respectful,  well mannered young man!

You could tell it was genuine too.

I hope he has a long successful career.
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #130 on: April 08, 2016, 11:55:48 PM »

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0% chance at #1.  Hield could go from 4-8 easily however.  He's not getting out of the top 10.

If I could make a comparison... the great Paul Pierce wasn't drafted until he was a junior.  Of course back then, the NBA tended to like to draft older players jrs/snrs because they were seen as closer to being ready.

Pierce averaged 16.4 pts and 6.3 rebounds over his college career.
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He was never an elite athlete, but his scoring skills were just too good to be stopped and he carved out what I believe was a HOF career with the Celtics.  Taken at pick #10 in 1998, Paul is one of the Celtics great players.

Could Hield turn into one of those players, underestimated on draft day, but produces in the NBA?  Who knows.  I wouldn't bet against him.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #131 on: April 09, 2016, 06:27:37 AM »

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Bottom line, Hield will not go # 1. More than likely, the top 3 picks will be Simmons, Ingram, and Bender because of the upside they have. After that, it's sort of a crap shoot. I can definitely see Murray moving ahead of Hield on most boards because of his age and his ability to play the 1 and 2.

Hield could very well go # 5, but his size, age, athleticism, ballhandling, defense, and upside are all questionable on the next level. He won't be a star, but he can excel as guy that plays off teammates and spaces the floor with his shooting ability. A more athletic version of Redick is probably his ceiling. That's a nice player to have, but to compare him to Curry is completely laughable.

^this

Very unlikely that Hield enters the top 3. Personally I doubt he even makes the top 5.
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