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If you're Evan Turner....
« on: February 11, 2016, 10:56:05 AM »

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You're having your most productive year.
You're a major player on a top 6 team.
You're actually beloved (for now) in an NBA city.
You're playing for a top 3 head coach.
You're surrounded by the perfect complimentary group of players for your weaknesses.

and you're a UFA this summer.

Obviously you're worth more to this team than your $3.5 mill salary. Would you take a home-town discount to stay in the best stretch of your career? How much do you think you're worth?



My thoughts: he should make as much as Jae and Avery. Someone needs to get paid with that cap space, and he's been too valuable.
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Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2016, 11:12:08 AM »

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I sure hope he stays...  I like his game, his ability to create his own shot, get into the paint and step up when we need a bucket.   

I do wish he had more range on jumper!  He is the man.... 
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Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2016, 11:15:07 AM »

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I sure hope he stays...  I like his game, his ability to create his own shot, get into the paint and step up when we need a bucket.   

I do wish he had more range on jumper!  He is the man....
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Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2016, 11:18:20 AM »

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I'd give Turner ~10 million a year.

Sully ~12 million a year.

Zeller ~6 million a year.
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Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2016, 11:18:45 AM »

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I sure hope he stays...  I like his game, his ability to create his own shot, get into the paint and step up when we need a bucket.   

I do wish he had more range on jumper!  He is the man....

He is the old-man game reincarnate of Paul Pierce ... except he can't shoot a 3 to save his life.

Still worth $8mill to this team though.
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Even at the end of the game, we lined up in different formation that he hadn't seen and he called out our play before I got the ball. I heard him calling it out. -John Wall on Brad Stevens

Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2016, 11:35:56 AM »

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Turner has only been in the league for 5 years, which means he's only had his rookie deal and the one Ainge gave him, so he hasn't earned a big time NBA salary yet.

Given his experience here, though, I would guess a team would have to seriously outbid Ainge to get ET to leave.

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Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2016, 11:46:24 AM »

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I sure hope he stays...  I like his game, his ability to create his own shot, get into the paint and step up when we need a bucket.   

I do wish he had more range on jumper!  He is the man....

He is the old-man game reincarnate of Paul Pierce ... except he can't shoot a 3 to save his life.

Still worth $8mill to this team though.

Yup.  Extremely rare to see a guy like Turner or Pierce who can get THAT open without any foot speed.  All footwork, IQ, and fades.
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David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2016, 11:46:53 AM »

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Turner has only been in the league for 5 years, which means he's only had his rookie deal and the one Ainge gave him, so he hasn't earned a big time NBA salary yet.

Given his experience here, though, I would guess a team would have to seriously outbid Ainge to get ET to leave.

Mike

i agree, this system as resurrected his career and allowed him to play his style and enjoy the game(something he obviously does).
I'd offer him Jae/ bradley money. parlement of equals and such.

Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2016, 11:47:41 AM »

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Turner has only been in the league for 5 years, which means he's only had his rookie deal and the one Ainge gave him, so he hasn't earned a big time NBA salary yet.

Given his experience here, though, I would guess a team would have to seriously outbid Ainge to get ET to leave.

Mike

i agree, this system as resurrected his career and allowed him to play his style and enjoy the game (something he obviously does).
I'd offer him Jae/ bradley money. parliament of equals and such.

Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2016, 12:16:32 PM »

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Turner has only been in the league for 5 years, which means he's only had his rookie deal and the one Ainge gave him, so he hasn't earned a big time NBA salary yet.

Given his experience here, though, I would guess a team would have to seriously outbid Ainge to get ET to leave.

Mike


i agree, this system as resurrected his career and allowed him to play his style and enjoy the game (something he obviously does).
I'd offer him Jae/ bradley money. parliament of equals and such.

What do you mean by "seriously" outbid? I expect that he will sign with the highest bidder (which may very well be us).

Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2016, 12:17:51 PM »

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This is his best chance to cash in on his talent.  He needs to go towards the money.



Now if it is close, maybe a hometown discount.

Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2016, 12:26:44 PM »

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I'd look for either

(a) A chance to join one of the top teams in a Sean Livingston / Jamal Crawford type role.   

Maybe replace Ginobili in San Antonio if Manu retires?  They already have Mills and Anderson, though.  OKC might let Waiters and Augustin walk, so there could be a chance there.

(b) A chance to cash in big ($10 million per year or more) on a mediocre team looking for guys who can handle the ball and score a bit.  Teams with playoff aspirations that might not be ready to hand the keys over to a young point guard full time, or one completely lacking a secondary ballhandler.

Atlanta (if they trade Teague), Detroit (if they lose Jennings), Memphis (if they lose Conley), Denver, or maybe Toronto (if they lose Derozan) all come to mind.

If neither of those scenarios presents itself, ET should try to re-sign with Boston.
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Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2016, 12:41:51 PM »

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The real question is do we really even need ET in the playoffs once everyones' minutes go up?

Thomas 36 / Smart 12
Bradley 24 / Smart 24
Crowder 30 / Bradley 12 / Jerebko 6
Sully 30 / Olynyk 12 / Crowder 6
Johnson 30 / Olynyk 18

8 man rotation (pretty typical) where everyone can shoot 3's.  Maybe splashes of Zeller or Turner if we're struggling?

Does Turner deserve those 6 minutes at SF over Jerebko?

Does his ball-handling make up for Jerebko's shooting/defense/rebounding?

Do we really need his ball-handling as long as we have at least 3-4 of our other 5 ball-handlers on the court at any given time (IT, Smart, Bradley, KO, Crowder)?  Thankfully, Sully, Johnson, and Jerebko aren't bad handlers in a pinch.

I know Turner has been great for us, but IT, Smart, Bradley, and Crowder have truly proven themselves as game-winners this year and should be given the appropriate minutes.  More importantly, we need to re-establish ourselves as a defense-first team, and we don't have the scoring talent to afford any lack of spacing offensively in the playoffs.
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Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
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Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2016, 12:43:09 PM »

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Honestly I hope he stays.  I don't see him being a huge money maker else where, but he needs a pay raise for sure.  He's a great 7th man off the bench that plays 1-3 for us when we need him.  I say he's worth around 6 million a year.  I think he's sign a 3 year deal at 18 million.  He gets the job security, stays where he likes to play and would put him at 30 so he'd still be able to make a good money contract after the 3 years.   

Re: If you're Evan Turner....
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2016, 12:46:58 PM »

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The real question is do we really even need ET in the playoffs once everyones' minutes go up?

Thomas 36 / Smart 12
Bradley 24 / Smart 24
Crowder 30 / Bradley 12 / Jerebko 6
Sully 30 / Olynyk 12 / Crowder 6
Johnson 30 / Olynyk 18

8 man rotation (pretty typical) where everyone can shoot 3's.  Maybe splashes of Zeller or Turner if we're struggling?

Does Turner deserve those 6 minutes at SF over Jerebko?

Does his ball-handling make up for Jerebko's shooting/defense/rebounding?

Do we really need his ball-handling as long as we have at least 3-4 of our other 5 ball-handlers on the court at any given time (IT, Smart, Bradley, KO, Crowder)?  Thankfully, Sully, Johnson, and Jerebko aren't bad handlers in a pinch.

I know Turner has been great for us, but IT, Smart, Bradley, and Crowder have truly proven themselves as game-winners this year and should be given the appropriate minutes.  More importantly, we need to re-establish ourselves as a defense-first team, and we don't have the scoring talent to afford any lack of spacing offensively in the playoffs.

I'll take Turner over Jerekbo any day we'll just start there.  He's worth the minutes being a player for us in the playoff who can play 3 positions.  Also he's one of our best fourth quarter players we have, between scoring and ball handling.  Plus I believe he also has at least 2 game winning shots for us this season.