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Rumor: Celtics after Shabazz Muhammad
« on: February 11, 2016, 12:36:12 AM »

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Interesting idea if the Celtics think they need a young scorer and don't believe in their young guys who play Muhammad's position (Hunter/Young). I just wonder what the T-Wolves would want for him.

Re: Rumor: Celtics after Shabazz Muhammad
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Re: Rumor: Celtics after Shabazz Muhammad
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Let the Suns have him. Maybe hed help them a bit.
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Re: Rumor: Celtics after Shabazz Muhammad
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2016, 01:57:03 AM »

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Hunter and the DAL pick would get it done. Minny needs shooting, and they also owe a lot of picks over the next few years and don't have many coming in. For the celtics, we can't use all of our 8 picks, so upgrading one of our young guys like Hunter into Shabazz makes sense.
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Re: Rumor: Celtics after Shabazz Muhammad
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2016, 02:13:20 AM »

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Hunter and the DAL pick would get it done. Minny needs shooting, and they also owe a lot of picks over the next few years and don't have many coming in. For the celtics, we can't use all of our 8 picks, so upgrading one of our young guys like Hunter into Shabazz makes sense.

Where do the minutes come from? It's not like he'd be taking any away from Hunter.

Wasn't Minny one of the few teams that had interest in Turner in FA a year and a half ago? I wonder if they'd be interested in Turner + DAL 1 or Turner + choice of Young or Hunter. They'd have to re-sign ET, but he likely wouldn't cost them all that much, and there's not much they could otherwise do the cap space.


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Re: Rumor: Celtics after Shabazz Muhammad
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2016, 02:24:59 AM »

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Hunter and the DAL pick would get it done. Minny needs shooting, and they also owe a lot of picks over the next few years and don't have many coming in. For the celtics, we can't use all of our 8 picks, so upgrading one of our young guys like Hunter into Shabazz makes sense.

Where do the minutes come from? It's not like he'd be taking any away from Hunter.

Wasn't Minny one of the few teams that had interest in Turner in FA a year and a half ago? I wonder if they'd be interested in Turner + DAL 1 or Turner + choice of Young or Hunter. They'd have to re-sign ET, but he likely wouldn't cost them all that much, and there's not much they could otherwise do the cap space.
First off, if they would be willing to do Young or Hunter and Dal 1st for Shabazz, there would be no reason to just throw in Turner. You can always stop giving Jerekbo or Turner minutes, but if someone goes down, there is no reason to just give away depth.

 If we just did Young or Hunter and DAL 1st for Shabazz, I would hope the rotation would be

IT/Smart
AB/Shabazz
Crowder/Turner
Sully/KO
Amir/Zeller

Rozier, Hunter or Young, Jerekbo, Lee, and Mickey would be the 3rd stringers.
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Re: Rumor: Celtics after Shabazz Muhammad
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2016, 02:33:12 AM »

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Hunter and the DAL pick would get it done. Minny needs shooting, and they also owe a lot of picks over the next few years and don't have many coming in. For the celtics, we can't use all of our 8 picks, so upgrading one of our young guys like Hunter into Shabazz makes sense.

Where do the minutes come from? It's not like he'd be taking any away from Hunter.

Wasn't Minny one of the few teams that had interest in Turner in FA a year and a half ago? I wonder if they'd be interested in Turner + DAL 1 or Turner + choice of Young or Hunter. They'd have to re-sign ET, but he likely wouldn't cost them all that much, and there's not much they could otherwise do the cap space.
First off, if they would be willing to do Young or Hunter and Dal 1st for Shabazz, there would be no reason to just throw in Turner. You can always stop giving Jerekbo or Turner minutes, but if someone goes down, there is no reason to just give away depth.

 If we just did Young or Hunter and DAL 1st for Shabazz, I would hope the rotation would be

IT/Smart
AB/Shabazz
Crowder/Turner
Sully/KO
Amir/Zeller

Rozier, Hunter or Young, Jerekbo, Lee, and Mickey would be the 3rd stringers.

That seems short-sighted. Instead of giving up a second string impending FA (Turner) and only one of Young/Hunter/1st rounder, you'd rather give up two of Young/Hunter/1st rounder so that we can keep the second string impending FA (Turner) for depth in a rotation that, while playing very well, isn't a serious contender? Consider that we'd be getting a play-making wing in Muhammad, so Turner would essentially be relegated to the Jerebko role, playing 10-15 mpg at most.


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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2016, 03:12:30 AM »

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Hunter and the DAL pick would get it done. Minny needs shooting, and they also owe a lot of picks over the next few years and don't have many coming in. For the celtics, we can't use all of our 8 picks, so upgrading one of our young guys like Hunter into Shabazz makes sense.

Where do the minutes come from? It's not like he'd be taking any away from Hunter.

Wasn't Minny one of the few teams that had interest in Turner in FA a year and a half ago? I wonder if they'd be interested in Turner + DAL 1 or Turner + choice of Young or Hunter. They'd have to re-sign ET, but he likely wouldn't cost them all that much, and there's not much they could otherwise do the cap space.
First off, if they would be willing to do Young or Hunter and Dal 1st for Shabazz, there would be no reason to just throw in Turner. You can always stop giving Jerekbo or Turner minutes, but if someone goes down, there is no reason to just give away depth.

 If we just did Young or Hunter and DAL 1st for Shabazz, I would hope the rotation would be

IT/Smart
AB/Shabazz
Crowder/Turner
Sully/KO
Amir/Zeller

Rozier, Hunter or Young, Jerekbo, Lee, and Mickey would be the 3rd stringers.

That seems short-sighted. Instead of giving up a second string impending FA (Turner) and only one of Young/Hunter/1st rounder, you'd rather give up two of Young/Hunter/1st rounder so that we can keep the second string impending FA (Turner) for depth in a rotation that, while playing very well, isn't a serious contender? Consider that we'd be getting a play-making wing in Muhammad, so Turner would essentially be relegated to the Jerebko role, playing 10-15 mpg at most.
While I would love to trade Turner and one of Hunter/Young/BOS 1st, Minny would have no incentive to do that deal. Turner is not that valuable to them, as they already have Ricky and Lavine as playmakers, and Young or Hunter is a clear downgrade from Shabazz. So no, I would not rather give up two of Hunter/Young/BOS 1st but you have to be realistic.
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Re: Rumor: Celtics after Shabazz Muhammad
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2016, 03:17:31 AM »

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Hunter and the DAL pick would get it done. Minny needs shooting, and they also owe a lot of picks over the next few years and don't have many coming in. For the celtics, we can't use all of our 8 picks, so upgrading one of our young guys like Hunter into Shabazz makes sense.

Where do the minutes come from? It's not like he'd be taking any away from Hunter.

Wasn't Minny one of the few teams that had interest in Turner in FA a year and a half ago? I wonder if they'd be interested in Turner + DAL 1 or Turner + choice of Young or Hunter. They'd have to re-sign ET, but he likely wouldn't cost them all that much, and there's not much they could otherwise do the cap space.
First off, if they would be willing to do Young or Hunter and Dal 1st for Shabazz, there would be no reason to just throw in Turner. You can always stop giving Jerekbo or Turner minutes, but if someone goes down, there is no reason to just give away depth.

 If we just did Young or Hunter and DAL 1st for Shabazz, I would hope the rotation would be

IT/Smart
AB/Shabazz
Crowder/Turner
Sully/KO
Amir/Zeller

Rozier, Hunter or Young, Jerekbo, Lee, and Mickey would be the 3rd stringers.

That seems short-sighted. Instead of giving up a second string impending FA (Turner) and only one of Young/Hunter/1st rounder, you'd rather give up two of Young/Hunter/1st rounder so that we can keep the second string impending FA (Turner) for depth in a rotation that, while playing very well, isn't a serious contender? Consider that we'd be getting a play-making wing in Muhammad, so Turner would essentially be relegated to the Jerebko role, playing 10-15 mpg at most.
While I would love to trade Turner and one of Hunter/Young/BOS 1st, Minny would have no incentive to do that deal. Turner is not that valuable to them, as they already have Ricky and Lavine as playmakers, and Young or Hunter is a clear downgrade from Shabazz. So no, I would not rather give up two of Hunter/Young/BOS 1st but you have to be realistic.

I think if it took more than Turner + a 1st or young prospect, Danny wouldn't make the deal. At least not midseason. That's not to say Shabazz isn't worth more, but it doesn't make as much sense to pay the price in February as it does in July.


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Re: Rumor: Celtics after Shabazz Muhammad
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2016, 04:24:30 AM »

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I'd give up young and a late first for him.  Smart, Shabazz, Turner, KO and Zeller would give us a really formidable bench.

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I would give up James Young and 2nds. I know the wolves were also interested to sign Evan Turner before. Maybe Turner and late 1st

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I would give up James Young and 2nds. I know the wolves were also interested to sign Evan Turner before. Maybe Turner and late 1st

First deal = yes, and even bump up the pick to the Cs 2016 1st. Second deal = no. There's just no good reason to trade Turner right now.
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Im a huge Shabazz fan, for some reason, but I think he be great at Boston
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Interesting. I didn't think his name would ever pop up for us. I'd like it.

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Once we release David Lee we will have an open roster spot. Since our rotation is pretty much full it would be good to add a young developmental prospect to fill that roster spot. Shabazz could fit that description.
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