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How much are you willing to pay Sully?

Less than 7.5 mil
7.5-10 mil
10-12.5 mil
12.5-15 mil
More than 15 mil

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Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2016, 05:26:11 PM »

Offline SHAQATTACK

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Sully is high maintaince

Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2016, 06:07:46 PM »

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$6-7 million per annum

not happening

Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2016, 06:20:14 PM »

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Sully will be overpaid by some mediocre team. He's worth 8-10 he'll get 14, hopefully just not from us.

Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2016, 06:30:35 PM »

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The thing about Sully is---When things get tough---He's the one who rolls up his sleeves--and gets to work....Him and Marcus....I expect him to get a 3 year deal worth $35-38 Mil.
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Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2016, 06:33:08 PM »

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Sully is not scard to ball in the paint .

We NEED him and Smart .

IF KO is not scoring points .   He is worthless IMO.

Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2016, 06:34:48 PM »

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At most 10 mil a year
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Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2016, 06:39:40 PM »

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Sully is not scard to ball in the paint .

We NEED him and Smart .

IF KO is not scoring points .   He is worthless IMO.

Yup.
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Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2016, 06:47:43 PM »

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I was a bit stuck choosing between the first two ranges.

I feel Sully's talent is worth of a $7.5M - $10M but I don't see him as a future starter here, and that's too much to pay for a long term backup. 

So in the end I dropped back to $7.5M, but that is specific to the Celtics and our current situation.  If he went to a team that had a need for his skills and where he was worthy of a long term starting role, then I'd give him $10M - $12M probably. 

For us, he's just not worth an 8 figure salary IMHO given all of his weaknesses. 

Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2016, 06:48:32 PM »

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As I've said before, what to pay Sully is the least of my worries. It comes secondary to timing of when to sign him and interest Ainge might have on him. The amount of money really comes after that.

Money is the least of my concerns in the context of next Summer.

He's definitely not a priority. The priority is looking into available stars and potential stars that are out there.

So how much I'm willing to pay? It is really dependent on how the rest of the Summer goes and trade opportunities.

Here's a previous post of mine:


There are two key questions here that are more important than price: Ainge's interest in Sullinger and timing.

I mention this because price is irrelevant when once considers the potential to go after 2 max free-agents.

I haven't run the calculations lately, but things will be tight to make that happen regardless (I don't think we'll be going after the $30+ million types, so if we remove that from the equation then things become more practical/likely). So keeping this in mind the key part is how much does the cap hold from Sullinger affect the possibility of going after these types of players.

And that's why timing is important, in the assumption of actual interest from Ainge, getting a verbal agreement from Sullinger instead of letting him go to the market and sign an offer sheet is very important to keep our cap space flexibility. If this can't be managed, I think it's very unlikely that Sullinger is retained (unless Ainge already judged the free-agent opportunities to be non-existent, but I doubt that's going to be the case). if Ainge can't secure a verbal agreement early, then I'm fairly certain Sullinger will be all but gone unless his market value is poor, so that's the unknown in this.

I'm not saying that we should overpay Sullinger, and I have no interest in that, but in the scheme of things, that's the least of our worries in the context of how it'll affect this particular free-agency period. After that is analyzing how it'll affect future free-agency situations.

We have a lot of youth coming in, we have a big man prospect that seems to project favorably, so losing Sullinger is not the end of the world.

But worth pointing out that there's room to retain him if management still has interest in him without it actually affecting our buying power much this off season. That's why interest and timing are the key factors here, and price comes in right after that.

If Ainge has no interest in him, then just move him at the trade deadline and move on. There's still quite of basketball to be played, let's see how it goes from here through February.

Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2016, 06:56:23 PM »

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Has Ainge ever had to match an offer sheet--?....He signed Bradley and Crowder before they got offers from other teams---am I correct on this--?
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Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2016, 07:39:50 PM »

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My opinion on this would be the same as respected Celticsblogger LooseCannon.

I want to wait until summer and see what the market is for Sullinger.  I value being flexible and don't want to get locked into a single strategy at this point.  Sure, I would trade him now if someone gave a ridiculous offer, but I am okay with having the option to either match or let him walk depending on how much other teams want to give him and what other moves the Celtics can make.

I will admit to being very wary that Sullinger is the sort of player who might put on more weight if he gets a big, long-term contract.
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Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2016, 08:12:00 PM »

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Sully is high maintaince

Trade fodder. Can't imagine the Celtics overpaying for a role player.
Better to deal him and find the athletic stretch for the pace and space offense.

Why do I have this feeling that if the Celtics extend him, we'll find him in the North Section of Boston with Mark Blount eating wings on a bloated contract! :o
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Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2016, 08:29:47 PM »

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5 million annually,  two guaranteed years
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Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2016, 08:33:12 PM »

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$6-7 million per annum
Sounds right to me . He is not more valuable than Crowder.

Re: How much are you willing to pay Sully?
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2016, 08:39:53 PM »

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If Sulinger goes to another team my projection is that he turns into someone like Dejuan Blaire.
Not efficient , rarely used. Maybe not right away but in a year or two .