Boston pick this year, boston pick next year (after Boston exercises rights to Nets swap), Terry Rozier
WOAH. That '17 BKN pick could be pretty lofty.
Gotta give something to get something. I'd rather risk the BKN pick when we don't know how crappy it'll be vs the one we do. If they want the 2018, all the better. That's got late teens written all over it.
If we were willing to give up 6 draft picks (4 first rounders ... including a Brooklyn 1st) to move up from #16 to #9 and select Winslow... what does that honestly put the trade value of Jabari at? I heard Ainge loved Parker.
He obviously doesn't love Parker as much as he loved Winslow. He must've had Winslow ranked in the top 3 on his draft board. That was not your ordinary move-up-the-draft proposal. Winslow is going to be a better player, anyway. Leonard-ish ceiling versus Parker's Derozan-ish ceiling. His defense is already more valuable than Parker's offense.
I think he had Winlsow at 3, but I also think he had parker at 2 in 2014.
Perhaps, but even if he had Parker that high, it's now 2016, Parker's since had knee surgery, is signed for two fewer years, and has been revealed to be way more one-dimensional than initially projected. The offer Ainge made for Winslow is irrelevant to what he would now offer for Parker.
That offer had nothing to do with Parker whatsoever. It shows ainge likes Winslow.
Are you talking to me?
Not me:
"If we were willing to give up 6 draft picks (4 first rounders ... including a Brooklyn 1st) to move up from #16 to #9 and select Winslow... what does that honestly put the trade value of Jabari at? I heard Ainge loved Parker."
The idea was that if Ainge offered that much for Winslow, then what would he now offer Milwaukee for Parker. And the answer is
NOT (Winslow offer + 20%) or whatever, just because Parker was drafted higher. There IS no relationship between the Winslow offer and Parker, right. But if anything, Ainge would almost certainly offer LESS for Parker.
Winslow has yet to score more than 13 points in a game this year. Parker looked like the ROY last year pre-acl and I expect him to be a star scorer once he fully recovers from this.
It's as if some of you stepped out of a time machine from 1993 when 80% of how 80% of fans would judge players was points per game. Winslow does not need to score much to be more valuable than Parker, whose
only value is scoring.
By the way, the thing about his knee is not that it's affecting his athleticism -- because it's not. According to Bucks watchers he's actually better athletically right now. The thing about the knee that affects his value is simply the fact that he's already blown out a knee and had surgery and so the risk of future catastrophic injury is increased.
So, no, the recovering knee does not explain his underwhelming performance. That's just who he is as a player. If his ACL was pristine and he was revealing himself to be this player, a player of narrow scoring value, that alone would drop his status well below Worth #2 Overall. But not only is he
this sub-hype player, he's now
also a knee risk.
My concern with him is a lack of a position, but he's a very talented basketball player with a high ceiling. We have to look into all those guys that come into the trade block.
Yeah, well, there's also his
lack of goodness at any other aspect of the game besides scoring. Jesus. Look at him, sure. No team can afford to turn its nose up at a one-dimensional scorer provided that scorer is good enough at scoring. But you really should cease the adjectives based on two-year-old hype which has since been tested against reality. The reality is, he's not the franchise talent people projected him to be. Milwaukee is going to be the last team to realize that, or at least they should be the last team. If another team pays a franchise-talent fortune for him expecting him to live up to the hype that's already passed him by, that would be a franchise-injuring mistake. No way Ainge is the one to make that mistake.