Sully

[Csfan1984]

I can't imagine Sully's value is any higher than say Kanter's was at this time last year.

It does seem that would be the benchmark.

[GreenWarrior]

Sell high.

absolutely. sully usually plays well at the beginning of the yr and fades towards the end. now is the perfect opportunity.

he's a classic example of a guy in a contract yr. playing hard to get his money...and once he does he'll fall off the planet.

[2short]

Sully has shut me up.

[Celtics4ever]

It has helped his game to shoot less threes.

[Greyman]

If he has learnt a lesson and changed his attitude and approach, would trading still be the best thing? He would be great to have alongside the player/s we want DA to trade for. I am not convinced he will let himself and as a result, the team, down due to losing drive and condition.

[Smartacus]

His new name ......MCS


Max Contract Sully

Reminds me of National TV Rondo.

[CelticPride2016]

Sully is a restricted free agent, so it's all speculation at this point. I think he still looks fat, that he may have gained some back. Or maybe he was bloated. He's had plenty of time  to slim down. It is quite ridiculous. Wait and see what happens, what Danny does, I guess. I'm not trying to scrutinize him, but he looked huge with a big butt and gut. He should not be playing center. Not with that back. He needs to lose the weight. Otherwise, I would trade him.

[LarBrd33]

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Season     FG%  3P%  FT%  TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
                                                     
2012-13   .493 .200 .746 10.7 1.4 0.9 0.9 1.2 6.2 10.9
2013-14   .427 .269 .778 10.6 2.1 0.6 0.9 2.1 4.4 17.3
2014-15   .439 .283 .744 10.1 3.1 1.0 1.0 1.8 3.5 17.7
2015-16   .460 .333 .640 13.5 3.6 1.4 1.2 1.8 3.6 15.9
Career    .442 .279 .755 10.7 2.4 0.9 0.9 1.8 4.4 16.2
His per-minute numbers are slightly up.  Mostly his rebounding rate and field goal percentage.  The defensive stats are a little bit higher.   Maybe he keeps it up... he's only 23.   He played fine before his injury last year.  He's always been capable of putting up stats with minutes.   It does seem like this would be prime time to sell high before something else derails him.

[alldaboston]

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Season     FG%  3P%  FT%  TRB AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS
                                                     
2012-13   .493 .200 .746 10.7 1.4 0.9 0.9 1.2 6.2 10.9
2013-14   .427 .269 .778 10.6 2.1 0.6 0.9 2.1 4.4 17.3
2014-15   .439 .283 .744 10.1 3.1 1.0 1.0 1.8 3.5 17.7
2015-16   .460 .333 .640 13.5 3.6 1.4 1.2 1.8 3.6 15.9
Career    .442 .279 .755 10.7 2.4 0.9 0.9 1.8 4.4 16.2
His per-minute numbers are slightly up.  Mostly his rebounding rate and field goal percentage.  The defensive stats are a little bit higher.   Maybe he keeps it up... he's only 23.   He played fine before his injury last year.  He's always been capable of putting up stats with minutes.   It does seem like this would be prime time to sell high before something else derails him.

what i find a bit interesting is how his free throw numbers have plummeted this year. its really strange.

[chambers]

23 mins 40 seconds and he scored 18 points, 15 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 blocks w/ 2 turnovers....that's an awesome effort in 24 minutes of play.

He's only taken 25 free throws this year and hit 16 @ 64% so I'd expect that to improve.

In the last 5 games he's played an average of 25 minutes a game. I'm not sure if Brad bumps this up to 30 mpg+ or just leaves him at 25 mins to keep him fresh.
If he continues to show progressive improvement on his conditioning he's probably going to bump that up to the 27-28 minute mark by All Star break (which is what he played last year).

Now would be the time to trade him, problem is all the other teams in the NBA know what we know about Sully- that he could just trip, stumble and fall backwards into a marshmellowy pool of chocolate since it's only been 16 games so far. He's still got a long ways to go but he's definitely lost weight and definitely in better shape overall. He's playing with more discipline and more motivation this year.
We just don't know whether it's the contract year, or the competition in the locker room that's motivating him- and that's what will scare teams away from trading anything of real value for him right now.

He's probably going to be a better trade asset if we sign him to a nice 4x$12 million deal like Amir's, hopefully with a fat clause.

One thing's for sure, Tommy Heinsohn loves him.

[Monkhouse]

23 mins 40 seconds and he scored 18 points, 15 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 blocks w/ 2 turnovers....that's an awesome effort in 24 minutes of play.

He's only taken 25 free throws this year and hit 16 @ 64% so I'd expect that to improve.

In the last 5 games he's played an average of 25 minutes a game. I'm not sure if Brad bumps this up to 30 mpg+ or just leaves him at 25 mins to keep him fresh.
If he continues to show progressive improvement on his conditioning he's probably going to bump that up to the 27-28 minute mark by All Star break (which is what he played last year).

Now would be the time to trade him, problem is all the other teams in the NBA know what we know about Sully- that he could just trip, stumble and fall backwards into a marshmellowy pool of chocolate since it's only been 16 games so far. He's still got a long ways to go but he's definitely lost weight and definitely in better shape overall. He's playing with more discipline and more motivation this year.
We just don't know whether it's the contract year, or the competition in the locker room that's motivating him- and that's what will scare teams away from trading anything of real value for him right now.

He's probably going to be a better trade asset if we sign him to a nice 4x$12 million deal like Amir's, hopefully with a fat clause.

One thing's for sure, Tommy Heinsohn loves him.

I completely agree with everything that's been said.

I'm just not 100% confident trading him away like that.

I still believe he can be like a Kevin Love lite. His rebounding numbers are excellent, and he has a very underrated outlet pass that has so much potential. His shooting form/mechanics is really good for a big man.

Sign him for like 12-14 million, for 3-4 years, and I would be okay with that. I would also give him some clauses to garner higher raises if he could hit the 3 pt more efficiently, or better conditioning.

I really like Sully, and I've been extremely high when we drafted him, and extremely low as of last year. But I believe Sullinger is talented, but doesn't put the effort to make his body the best it can be.

We'll see if he can pull it all together, but some team like the Hornets will surely overpay for him, especially if they can picture him being the piece they need, (which is far from the truth).

[billysan]

I like his rebounding a bunch and the scoring is nice. I just don't think he plays D at a level we need for the long term. Sell if you can get value like we did with Jefferson. He will never be as good as Big Al IMO. If I thought he would say I would keep him.

[pearljammer10]

Trade him to the highest bidder now cause its not going to get much better from here.

[jpotter33]

For people saying trade him, what is a realistic trade scenario for him? What team is a good fit, and what is a good return? I've thought a little about it, but I haven't came up with anything good.