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Will Philly get Simmons

No.
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Yes.
2 (14.3%)
They only give the worst team the first pick when it's Cleveland.
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Re: Philly is not getting Simmons! End that thought.
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2015, 09:03:05 AM »

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so the Lakers are getting him?
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Philly is not getting Simmons! End that thought.
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2015, 09:13:14 AM »

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isnt there a stat somewhere saying the worst record rarely gets the #1 pick?

Re: Philly is not getting Simmons! End that thought.
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2015, 09:40:34 AM »

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The Lakers and Philly are by far the two worst teams.  One of them will get Simmons.
I prefer Philly getting him.
combined, right now the odds of either of these two teams getting the #1 pick is 45%, less and 50/50. so strictly speaking, the odds are against them.

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Re: Philly is not getting Simmons! End that thought.
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2015, 09:43:02 AM »

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isnt there a stat somewhere saying the worst record rarely gets the #1 pick?
the team with THE worst record in the nba has exactly a 25% chance of getting the #1. that is more than any other team. but, obviously, the odds are much greater that SOME OTHER TEAM will get the #1 pick.

see one of my favorite websites for the odds...

http://www.tankathon.com/
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Re: Philly is not getting Simmons! End that thought.
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2015, 09:44:03 AM »

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isnt there a stat somewhere saying the worst record rarely gets the #1 pick?
You can look at the actual odds.  The worst record only has a 25% chance at the #1 pick and a 64.3% chance at a top 3 pick.  So there's actually a better chance that the team with the worst record finishes with the #4 pick than the #1 pick. 

Of course, all the other lottery odds are worse.  If Brooklyn finishes with the 3rd worst record like they have now,  the odds we get the #1 pick would be 15.6% and a top 3 pick would be 46.9%. 

Re: Philly is not getting Simmons! End that thought.
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2015, 09:53:19 AM »

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The Lakers and Philly are by far the two worst teams.  One of them will get Simmons.
I prefer Philly getting him.
combined, right now the odds of either of these two teams getting the #1 pick is 45%, less and 50/50. so strictly speaking, the odds are against them.
The Sixers have the right to swap picks with the Kings (if the Kings pick is in the top 10).  So assuming the Kings finish in the lottery, the Sixers will have an additional chance to get the #1 pick. 

Re: Philly is not getting Simmons! End that thought.
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2015, 09:58:11 AM »

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The Lakers and Philly are by far the two worst teams.  One of them will get Simmons.
I prefer Philly getting him.
combined, right now the odds of either of these two teams getting the #1 pick is 45%, less and 50/50. so strictly speaking, the odds are against them.
The Sixers have the right to swap picks with the Kings (if the Kings pick is in the top 10).  So assuming the Kings finish in the lottery, the Sixers will have an additional chance to get the #1 pick.


Yet another reason to root for Rondo and the Kings!

Re: Philly is not getting Simmons! End that thought.
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2015, 12:30:48 PM »

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isnt there a stat somewhere saying the worst record rarely gets the #1 pick?
the team with THE worst record in the nba has exactly a 25% chance of getting the #1. that is more than any other team. but, obviously, the odds are much greater that SOME OTHER TEAM will get the #1 pick.

see one of my favorite websites for the odds...

http://www.tankathon.com/

right right. but historically speaking, i think the worst team has only gotten the #1 3 times since the lottery was introduced? ur point is well taken though.

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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2015, 08:22:21 AM »

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isnt there a stat somewhere saying the worst record rarely gets the #1 pick?
the team with THE worst record in the nba has exactly a 25% chance of getting the #1. that is more than any other team. but, obviously, the odds are much greater that SOME OTHER TEAM will get the #1 pick.

see one of my favorite websites for the odds...

http://www.tankathon.com/

right right. but historically speaking, i think the worst team has only gotten the #1 3 times since the lottery was introduced? ur point is well taken though.
I posted a thread on here a few months back (maybe longer) that went through all the #1 picks and the place of finish of the team that landed it.
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: Philly is not getting Simmons! End that thought.
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2015, 08:25:03 AM »

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Here is the thread http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=73069.msg1720913#msg1720913

Minnesota would have to be added to the worst record crowd, bringing the total to 3.
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip