Poll: Would you offer Harrison Barnes a Max contract

[Evantime34]

Part of me thinks that if we give Barnes the max it will be an overpay. On the other hand he is so young and athletic he could easily live up to it.

A 1-4 of Smart, Bradley, Barnes and Crowder would allow the C's to switch on a lot of screens and make the defense even better. My dream is for the C's to draft Ben Simmons and sign Barnes to start at the 3/4.

[mysteryMrE]

I would give Barnes the max, but I highly doubt GS lets him walk.

[Walter Moss]

Batum for 15-16M is a better option imho

[PhoSita]

Batum for 15-16M is a better option imho

I agree, I have a feeling Batum would look really good in Brad's system.

[wdleehi]

No.   Not until there is a star in place. 


He is not a star.   He does not play a position that is hard to fill in the NBA. 


He is a good player.  Don't pay him like a star just because the Cap is exploding and the Celtics have cap room. 

[Walter Moss]

No.   Not until there is a star in place. 


He is not a star.   He does not play a position that is hard to fill in the NBA. 


He is a good player.  Don't pay him like a star just because the Cap is exploding and the Celtics have cap room.

Man, whom u call a star in this league?) This is not 90's anymore) We have no 10-15 megastars. We have Curry,Bron,Westbrook - who else?)))

If we decide to wait till we get a STAR - it might take a decade or two. We need to have a contender team. Atlanta was a big force last season with 4 allstar caliber player - none of them is a star.

This Boston team is a palyoff borderline team NOW. With 2 great weaknesses - good scorer with some defense and ball movement skills and a real BIG center to protect not only a rim but i say PAINT - like Hassan or Horford for example (Noel would be a God's gift).

I guess GSW won't play with their destiny and will pay max (or near max) to Barnes like Cavs did with TT.

Batum,Horford and Hassan are 3 good targets for Danny and CBS next summer not counting great chance of players like Simmons or Skal (Ingram is a bust imho atm) on draft day.

When it all said and done - we MIGHT be a great team on East with a chance for ECF and slight chance for winning it. IT/Smart/Bradley - Batum?/Crowder-Sully/Skal?-Noel or Hassan and this is a great force to contend with Cavs.

[wiley]

Is he a good passer with a high IQ?

He's certainly playing great this year and if he keeps it up someone will pay
him a lot.  If yes to above question then he'd make a great Celtic imo.
But he has to stay consistent with his 3 point shot.  Otherwise we already
kind of have his skill set on the team.

[Evantime34]

No.   Not until there is a star in place. 


He is not a star.   He does not play a position that is hard to fill in the NBA. 


He is a good player.  Don't pay him like a star just because the Cap is exploding and the Celtics have cap room.

I don't agree about the 3 being an easy position to fill. Especially when you are talking about a 3 that can switch 2-4.

I agree that you don't pay him like a star because the cap is exploding. I think you pay him like a star because you believe he will someday be a star. IMO he could be a star in that he makes the C's a lot better with his defense/athleticism and shooting. He's not a guy you can iso to get a bucket late but he is a talent that could grow into a great two way player.

I'd much rather have Barnes than a guy like Tobias Harris if they had both become free agents at the same time. Harris got near the max, I think Barnes will be in a similar situation for his draft class.

[wdleehi]

No.   Not until there is a star in place. 


He is not a star.   He does not play a position that is hard to fill in the NBA. 


He is a good player.  Don't pay him like a star just because the Cap is exploding and the Celtics have cap room.

Man, whom u call a star in this league?) This is not 90's anymore) We have no 10-15 megastars. We have Curry,Bron,Westbrook - who else?)))

If we decide to wait till we get a STAR - it might take a decade or two. We need to have a contender team. Atlanta was a big force last season with 4 allstar caliber player - none of them is a star.

This Boston team is a palyoff borderline team NOW. With 2 great weaknesses - good scorer with some defense and ball movement skills and a real BIG center to protect not only a rim but i say PAINT - like Hassan or Horford for example (Noel would be a God's gift).

I guess GSW won't play with their destiny and will pay max (or near max) to Barnes like Cavs did with TT.

Batum,Horford and Hassan are 3 good targets for Danny and CBS next summer not counting great chance of players like Simmons or Skal (Ingram is a bust imho atm) on draft day.

When it all said and done - we MIGHT be a great team on East with a chance for ECF and slight chance for winning it. IT/Smart/Bradley - Batum?/Crowder-Sully/Skal?-Noel or Hassan and this is a great force to contend with Cavs.

Blake Griffin, Cousins, Durrant, Chris Paul, Anthony Davis, George, Butler....



With upcoming stars like Karl-Anthony Towns, Wiggins, Kristaps Porzingis....



Not to mention who ever else I forgot to mention, there is more then three stars in the NBA. 

[wdleehi]

No.   Not until there is a star in place. 


He is not a star.   He does not play a position that is hard to fill in the NBA. 


He is a good player.  Don't pay him like a star just because the Cap is exploding and the Celtics have cap room.

I don't agree about the 3 being an easy position to fill. Especially when you are talking about a 3 that can switch 2-4.

I agree that you don't pay him like a star because the cap is exploding. I think you pay him like a star because you believe he will someday be a star. IMO he could be a star in that he makes the C's a lot better with his defense/athleticism and shooting. He's not a guy you can iso to get a bucket late but he is a talent that could grow into a great two way player.

I'd much rather have Barnes than a guy like Tobias Harris if they had both become free agents at the same time. Harris got near the max, I think Barnes will be in a similar situation for his draft class.

I just don't see that in Barnes.   But I didn't see star in guys like Harris or Middleton, but they got paid like it.   


Of course I wonder as the NBA approaches closer and closer to what the new salary cap norm is going to be, are teams going to slow down the max contract?

[Walter Moss]

No.   Not until there is a star in place. 


He is not a star.   He does not play a position that is hard to fill in the NBA. 


He is a good player.  Don't pay him like a star just because the Cap is exploding and the Celtics have cap room.

Man, whom u call a star in this league?) This is not 90's anymore) We have no 10-15 megastars. We have Curry,Bron,Westbrook - who else?)))

If we decide to wait till we get a STAR - it might take a decade or two. We need to have a contender team. Atlanta was a big force last season with 4 allstar caliber player - none of them is a star.

This Boston team is a palyoff borderline team NOW. With 2 great weaknesses - good scorer with some defense and ball movement skills and a real BIG center to protect not only a rim but i say PAINT - like Hassan or Horford for example (Noel would be a God's gift).

I guess GSW won't play with their destiny and will pay max (or near max) to Barnes like Cavs did with TT.

Batum,Horford and Hassan are 3 good targets for Danny and CBS next summer not counting great chance of players like Simmons or Skal (Ingram is a bust imho atm) on draft day.

When it all said and done - we MIGHT be a great team on East with a chance for ECF and slight chance for winning it. IT/Smart/Bradley - Batum?/Crowder-Sully/Skal?-Noel or Hassan and this is a great force to contend with Cavs.

Blake Griffin, Cousins, Durrant, Chris Paul, Anthony Davis, George, Butler....



With upcoming stars like Karl-Anthony Towns, Wiggins, Kristaps Porzingis....



Not to mention who ever else I forgot to mention, there is more then three stars in the NBA.

I was talking about megastars (sorry) who are real game changers and could stay healthy for all season and PO's 2-3 years in a row.
DMC is still on his way to a first PO appearance.
George is cool yes. Griffin is a joke.Chris Flop declining. KD and Brow are so much injury prone.
Young stars like Wiggy and KAT are cool off course.Hope we will have one after next draft.
But I dont see any of them coming to Boston soon. So my thoughts are to pay for a players who could make our weakness not so weak) And in this case I think Batum for less than max is better than Barnes for max.

[wdleehi]

No.   Not until there is a star in place. 


He is not a star.   He does not play a position that is hard to fill in the NBA. 


He is a good player.  Don't pay him like a star just because the Cap is exploding and the Celtics have cap room.

Man, whom u call a star in this league?) This is not 90's anymore) We have no 10-15 megastars. We have Curry,Bron,Westbrook - who else?)))

If we decide to wait till we get a STAR - it might take a decade or two. We need to have a contender team. Atlanta was a big force last season with 4 allstar caliber player - none of them is a star.

This Boston team is a palyoff borderline team NOW. With 2 great weaknesses - good scorer with some defense and ball movement skills and a real BIG center to protect not only a rim but i say PAINT - like Hassan or Horford for example (Noel would be a God's gift).

I guess GSW won't play with their destiny and will pay max (or near max) to Barnes like Cavs did with TT.

Batum,Horford and Hassan are 3 good targets for Danny and CBS next summer not counting great chance of players like Simmons or Skal (Ingram is a bust imho atm) on draft day.

When it all said and done - we MIGHT be a great team on East with a chance for ECF and slight chance for winning it. IT/Smart/Bradley - Batum?/Crowder-Sully/Skal?-Noel or Hassan and this is a great force to contend with Cavs.

Blake Griffin, Cousins, Durrant, Chris Paul, Anthony Davis, George, Butler....



With upcoming stars like Karl-Anthony Towns, Wiggins, Kristaps Porzingis....



Not to mention who ever else I forgot to mention, there is more then three stars in the NBA.

I was talking about megastars (sorry) who are real game changers and could stay healthy for all season and PO's 2-3 years in a row.
DMC is still on his way to a first PO appearance.
Gearge is cool yes. Young stars like Wiggy and KAT are cool off course.
But I dont see any of them coming to Boston soon. So my thoughts are to pay for a players who could make our weakness not so weak)

The Celtics are building up this treasure chest of trade-able assets to go after such thing along with vets on easy to drop contracts. 


I don't see how overpaying for a good SF who gets a huge offensive benefit right now based on who he is playing with (no chances he is double teamed.  Will not draw the other teams to defender) 


Good player.  Not one that I think greatly changes the fortune of this Celtics team. 

[CelticGuardian]

Harrison Barnes will fill a need, I don't think it will cheap. And just looking around the league how thirst GMs are for players of this type, he won't be worth the dollars. He's being perfectly utilized in GSW, giving more minutes and responsibilities will give him a chance to earn his big pay, but when you have questions on whether a guy would live up to a contract then you probably shouldn't offer them to sign.

[Walter Moss]

No.   Not until there is a star in place. 


He is not a star.   He does not play a position that is hard to fill in the NBA. 


He is a good player.  Don't pay him like a star just because the Cap is exploding and the Celtics have cap room.

Man, whom u call a star in this league?) This is not 90's anymore) We have no 10-15 megastars. We have Curry,Bron,Westbrook - who else?)))

If we decide to wait till we get a STAR - it might take a decade or two. We need to have a contender team. Atlanta was a big force last season with 4 allstar caliber player - none of them is a star.

This Boston team is a palyoff borderline team NOW. With 2 great weaknesses - good scorer with some defense and ball movement skills and a real BIG center to protect not only a rim but i say PAINT - like Hassan or Horford for example (Noel would be a God's gift).

I guess GSW won't play with their destiny and will pay max (or near max) to Barnes like Cavs did with TT.

Batum,Horford and Hassan are 3 good targets for Danny and CBS next summer not counting great chance of players like Simmons or Skal (Ingram is a bust imho atm) on draft day.

When it all said and done - we MIGHT be a great team on East with a chance for ECF and slight chance for winning it. IT/Smart/Bradley - Batum?/Crowder-Sully/Skal?-Noel or Hassan and this is a great force to contend with Cavs.

Blake Griffin, Cousins, Durrant, Chris Paul, Anthony Davis, George, Butler....



With upcoming stars like Karl-Anthony Towns, Wiggins, Kristaps Porzingis....



Not to mention who ever else I forgot to mention, there is more then three stars in the NBA.

I was talking about megastars (sorry) who are real game changers and could stay healthy for all season and PO's 2-3 years in a row.
DMC is still on his way to a first PO appearance.
Gearge is cool yes. Young stars like Wiggy and KAT are cool off course.
But I dont see any of them coming to Boston soon. So my thoughts are to pay for a players who could make our weakness not so weak)

The Celtics are building up this treasure chest of trade-able assets to go after such thing along with vets on easy to drop contracts. 


I don't see how overpaying for a good SF who gets a huge offensive benefit right now based on who he is playing with (no chances he is double teamed.  Will not draw the other teams to defender) 


Good player.  Not one that I think greatly changes the fortune of this Celtics team.

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So all I have now is hope for Simmons or Skal as our next KAT or Wiggins.

[markb]

YES!!!!!