Dwight Howard

[max215]

Dwight Howard is no longer the force he once was, but he is still a really talented player who can rebound, play defense, and bully opposing players. The Rockets are terrible and are reaching the point where they need to make changes to their roster. They also have a promising young Center behind Howard in Clint Capela. We could offer them (on December 15th) Jerebko, Zeller, pobably Lee (for salary purposes), and a pick or two for Howard and a filler. They get desperately needed defense and 3 point shooting from Jerebko, a nice Center to split minutes with Capela, a great veteran presence, and a cost-controlled young player or two. We bolster our already ridiculous defense and greatly improve our rebounding. I think it's a win win, but what do you guys think?

[Jon]

I mean, sure, for that price, why not?  I don't think Dwight is as good as people have made him out to be.  But he's still only 29, is averaging 13/13/2 and is the rim protector the team needs.  And he only has this year and a 23 million dollar player option for next year.  So he's not going to saddle the team forever if he underachieves again. 

But I don't think Houston bites.  I still think they have aspirations to turn this around and trading him for that package is essentially blowing it up and going into rebuild. 

I think they only go for it if we offer Brooklyn picks, which are too rich for my blood given his history of injuries and underachievement. 

[kraidstar]

no way the nets make a trade unless it's a godfather offer (like all 3 nets picks).

they are holding out hope they can lure a free agent to houston (which IMO won't happen).

so duh-wight and harden will remain in purgatory for the forseeable future. which is fine by me, they are two of the most unlikeable players in the league.

[Bucketgetter]

no way the nets make a trade unless it's a godfather offer (like all 3 nets picks).

they are holding out hope they can lure a free agent to houston (which IMO won't happen).

so duh-wight and harden will remain in purgatory for the forseeable future. which is fine by me, they are two of the most unlikeable players in the league.

Nets have nothing to do with it.

[jambr380]

no way the nets make a trade unless it's a godfather offer (like all 3 nets picks).

they are holding out hope they can lure a free agent to houston (which IMO won't happen).

so duh-wight and harden will remain in purgatory for the forseeable future. which is fine by me, they are two of the most unlikeable players in the league.

Nets have nothing to do with it.

Obviously a typo - he even said 'Nets picks' in parentheses. He meant Rockets.

[TheTruthFot18]

no way the nets make a trade unless it's a godfather offer (like all 3 nets picks).

they are holding out hope they can lure a free agent to houston (which IMO won't happen).

so duh-wight and harden will remain in purgatory for the forseeable future. which is fine by me, they are two of the most unlikeable players in the league.

Nets have nothing to do with it.

They have everything not to do with it.

[max215]

I mean, sure, for that price, why not?  I don't think Dwight is as good as people have made him out to be.  But he's still only 29, is averaging 13/13/2 and is the rim protector the team needs.  And he only has this year and a 23 million dollar player option for next year.  So he's not going to saddle the team forever if he underachieves again. 

But I don't think Houston bites.  I still think they have aspirations to turn this around and trading him for that package is essentially blowing it up and going into rebuild. 

I think they only go for it if we offer Brooklyn picks, which are too rich for my blood given his history of injuries and underachievement.

I'm thinking that they might be in quite the hole and in need of a change by the time that players signed last year can be traded. And I strongly agree about the Nets pick, no chance I give that up for Howard.

[hpantazo]

I think Dwight Howard totally goes against the type of players and the type of culture CBS and Ainge are trying to build. I don't see them having any interest in him.

[thirstyboots18]

I think Dwight Howard totally goes against the type of players and the type of culture CBS and Ainge are trying to build. I don't see them having any interest in him.

I hope you are right!

[max215]

I think Dwight Howard totally goes against the type of players and the type of culture CBS and Ainge are trying to build. I don't see them having any interest in him.

I believe McHale was quoted as saying that Howard was the only one trying on defense. And we don't need him to be a leader in the clubhouse. He can just play great defense, rebound, and score on open dunks.

[hpantazo]

I think Dwight Howard totally goes against the type of players and the type of culture CBS and Ainge are trying to build. I don't see them having any interest in him.

I believe McHale was quoted as saying that Howard was the only one trying on defense. And we don't need him to be a leader in the clubhouse. He can just play great defense, rebound, and score on open dunks.

McHale's comment is not quite a ringing endorsement either. Its more of a shot at how bad the rest of the team was on defense than anything. Dwight is selfish, lazy, can't shoot, creates trouble on every franchise he has been on, and has a poor basketball IQ. All the things Ainge and CBS have repeatedly stated and shown they look to avoid in players. They have no problem taking on overpaid vets if they have a great attitude, like David Lee, but Dwight is the opposite end of the spectrum.

To be under Kevin McHale on a franchise built around you, and fail to add a single low post move to your extremely limited repertoire speaks volumes.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think Dwight Howard totally goes against the type of players and the type of culture CBS and Ainge are trying to build. I don't see them having any interest in him.

I believe McHale was quoted as saying that Howard was the only one trying on defense. And we don't need him to be a leader in the clubhouse. He can just play great defense, rebound, and score on open dunks.

McHale's comment is not quite a ringing endorsement either. Its more of a shot at how bad the rest of the team was on defense than anything. Dwight is selfish, lazy, can't shoot, creates trouble on every franchise he has been on, and has a poor basketball IQ. All the things Ainge and CBS have repeatedly stated and shown they look to avoid in players. They have no problem taking on overpaid vets if they have a great attitude, like David Lee, but Dwight is the opposite end of the spectrum.

To be under Kevin McHale on a franchise built around you, and fail to add a single low post move to your extremely limited repertoire speaks volumes.

I don't think you guys understand Ainge at all.

Talent trumps everything and loves buying low on trouble makers.

[thirstyboots18]

Just  my own observation, there are a lot fewer posters in this and other Celtics blogs this year.  I am not saying the Celtics have lost fans, but they have pulled back from active participation...gone into a "wait" mode, maybe.

 I believe Ainge has alienated a lot of fans by the wholesale dismantling of beloved Celtics players over the past few years, and I don't think he would win many back with the addition of Dwight Howard. 

Speaking for myself, I have been a Celtics fan for more than 50 years, and this year I find myself following the Clippers, the Kings, the Timberwolves, and the Celtics.  I have not let myself get invested in any of the present Celtics, because I am not sure who will be here for the full season.  While it is nice  seeing the young players develop, there would have been more continuity if one or more of the Championship team had been held around to mentor them and possibly offered a position after their playing days ended. 

There is a lingering feeling that player loyalty and fan loyalty are, sadly, disposable commodities.

[guava_wrench]

Just  my own observation, there are a lot fewer posters in this and other Celtics blogs this year.  I am not saying the Celtics have lost fans, but they have pulled back from active participation...gone into a "wait" mode, maybe.

 I believe Ainge has alienated a lot of fans by the wholesale dismantling of beloved Celtics players over the past few years, and I don't think he would win many back with the addition of Dwight Howard. 

Speaking for myself, I have been a Celtics fan for more than 50 years, and this year I find myself following the Clippers, the Kings, the Timberwolves, and the Celtics.  I have not let myself get invested in any of the present Celtics, because I am not sure who will be here for the full season.  While it is nice  seeing the young players develop, there would have been more continuity if one or more of the Championship team had been held around to mentor them and possibly offered a position after their playing days ended. 

There is a lingering feeling that player loyalty and fan loyalty are, sadly, disposable commodities.

He alienated fans by doing great moves that made the team much better for the future? With fans like that, a franchise is in trouble.

Continuity means nothing when you are a not a good team. We had continuity with Pierce pre KG and I can tell you from my firsthand experience, there were not a lot of fans in the arena.

Maybe they lost fans because there were a lot of frontrunners who enjoyed the team when it was at the top and bailed when that was no longer the case.

[guava_wrench]

Dwight isn't even playing back to backs this season. He is not worth the commitment, especially with the wildcard of his attitude.