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Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #840 on: August 19, 2017, 05:35:06 PM »

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Anyone else notice the war on people taking responsibility for their free speech? You can say what you want but you are not free from consequences. People in this country are free to react to your free speech. With free speech comes responsibility.

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Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #841 on: October 05, 2017, 11:55:29 AM »

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BLM has devolved into a parody.  Their latest target? The ACLU.

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Students affiliated with the Black Lives Matter movement crashed an event at the College of William & Mary, rushed the stage, and prevented the invited guest—the American Civil Liberties Union's Claire Gastañaga, a W & M alum—from speaking.

Ironically, Gastañaga had intended to speak on the subject, "Students and the First Amendment."

The disruption was livestreamed on BLM at W&M's Facebook page. Students took to the stage just a few moments after Gastañaga began her remarks. At first, she attempted to spin the demonstration as a welcome example of the kind of thing she had come to campus to discuss, commenting "Good, I like this," as they lined up and raised their signs. "I'm going to talk to you about knowing your rights, and protests and demonstrations, which this illustrates very well. Then I'm going to respond to questions from the moderators, and then questions from the audience."


It was the last remark she was able to make before protesters drowned her out with cries of, "ACLU, you protect Hitler, too." They also chanted, "the oppressed are not impressed," "shame, shame, shame, shame," (an ode to the Faith Militant's treatment of Cersei Lannister in Game of Thrones, though why anyone would want to be associated with the religious fanatics in that particular conflict is beyond me), "blood on your hands," "the revolution will not uphold the Constitution," and, uh, "liberalism is white supremacy."

http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/04/black-lives-matter-students-shut-down-th

I was expecting this to be in The Onion.


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Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #842 on: October 05, 2017, 12:20:58 PM »

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BLM has devolved into a parody.  Their latest target? The ACLU.

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Students affiliated with the Black Lives Matter movement crashed an event at the College of William & Mary, rushed the stage, and prevented the invited guest—the American Civil Liberties Union's Claire Gastañaga, a W & M alum—from speaking.

Ironically, Gastañaga had intended to speak on the subject, "Students and the First Amendment."

The disruption was livestreamed on BLM at W&M's Facebook page. Students took to the stage just a few moments after Gastañaga began her remarks. At first, she attempted to spin the demonstration as a welcome example of the kind of thing she had come to campus to discuss, commenting "Good, I like this," as they lined up and raised their signs. "I'm going to talk to you about knowing your rights, and protests and demonstrations, which this illustrates very well. Then I'm going to respond to questions from the moderators, and then questions from the audience."


It was the last remark she was able to make before protesters drowned her out with cries of, "ACLU, you protect Hitler, too." They also chanted, "the oppressed are not impressed," "shame, shame, shame, shame," (an ode to the Faith Militant's treatment of Cersei Lannister in Game of Thrones, though why anyone would want to be associated with the religious fanatics in that particular conflict is beyond me), "blood on your hands," "the revolution will not uphold the Constitution," and, uh, "liberalism is white supremacy."

http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/04/black-lives-matter-students-shut-down-th

I was expecting this to be in The Onion.


I'm not sure if this is particular incident is so much of a BLM issue as is it an issue of college age kids these days being dumber than dog crap and having no respect for the rights of others.

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« Reply #843 on: October 05, 2017, 12:25:54 PM »

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BLM has devolved into a parody.  Their latest target? The ACLU.

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Students affiliated with the Black Lives Matter movement crashed an event at the College of William & Mary, rushed the stage, and prevented the invited guest—the American Civil Liberties Union's Claire Gastañaga, a W & M alum—from speaking.

Ironically, Gastañaga had intended to speak on the subject, "Students and the First Amendment."

The disruption was livestreamed on BLM at W&M's Facebook page. Students took to the stage just a few moments after Gastañaga began her remarks. At first, she attempted to spin the demonstration as a welcome example of the kind of thing she had come to campus to discuss, commenting "Good, I like this," as they lined up and raised their signs. "I'm going to talk to you about knowing your rights, and protests and demonstrations, which this illustrates very well. Then I'm going to respond to questions from the moderators, and then questions from the audience."


It was the last remark she was able to make before protesters drowned her out with cries of, "ACLU, you protect Hitler, too." They also chanted, "the oppressed are not impressed," "shame, shame, shame, shame," (an ode to the Faith Militant's treatment of Cersei Lannister in Game of Thrones, though why anyone would want to be associated with the religious fanatics in that particular conflict is beyond me), "blood on your hands," "the revolution will not uphold the Constitution," and, uh, "liberalism is white supremacy."

http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/04/black-lives-matter-students-shut-down-th

I was expecting this to be in The Onion.
Ridiculous. BLM started as a good way to bring light to police violence and harrassment of blacks but after very little time has really devolved into a group I would say is as disruptive and militant as some far right groups. I hope BLM just goes away. They are doing damaged to the issues blacks have legitimate reasons to be concerned about and need to keep in the political and social discussions.

Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #844 on: November 13, 2017, 01:27:03 PM »

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From the (not so) recent news cycle, seems relevant to the topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/24/opinion/dying-art-of-disagreement.html
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Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #845 on: November 14, 2017, 01:21:20 AM »

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From the (not so) recent news cycle, seems relevant to the topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/24/opinion/dying-art-of-disagreement.html

Thank you so much for posting this link.  A well earned TP for you!

Seriously, this guy hit the nail on the head dead square.  Every person should have to read this.  If this doesn't hit home for EVERYONE there is a serious problem.

Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #846 on: December 15, 2017, 10:30:47 PM »

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?tid=ss_tw-bottom&utm_term=.9fd4a06d4f9c

Maybe its because i’m a doctor, but is it concerning to anyone that in the US, religious zealots could bar a public health division of our nation from using certain wordsin their public health literature?

Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #847 on: December 15, 2017, 10:48:05 PM »

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I am also concerned that speakers who have a conservative message have been protested with violence and that politically incorrect comments are shouted down as racist, or, God forbid, as Pro-American. Loving the greatest country in the history of mankind has become almost criminal to the brainwashed liberal mobs.

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« Reply #848 on: December 15, 2017, 10:51:05 PM »

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I am also concerned that speakers who have a conservative message have been protested with violence and that politically incorrect comments are shouted down as racist, or, God forbid, as Pro-American. Loving the greatest country in the history of mankind has become almost criminal to the brainwashed liberal mobs.
You mean like in Charlottesville?

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« Reply #849 on: December 15, 2017, 10:51:54 PM »

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I am also concerned that speakers who have a conservative message have been protested with violence and that politically incorrect comments are shouted down as racist, or, God forbid, as Pro-American. Loving the greatest country in the history of mankind has become almost criminal to the brainwashed liberal mobs.

FOX much?

Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #850 on: December 15, 2017, 10:53:06 PM »

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Net Neutrality = Free speach

Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #851 on: December 15, 2017, 10:53:43 PM »

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Re: So... Anyone else concerned about the war on free speech?
« Reply #852 on: December 15, 2017, 10:54:36 PM »

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I am also concerned that speakers who have a conservative message have been protested with violence and that politically incorrect comments are shouted down as racist, or, God forbid, as Pro-American. Loving the greatest country in the history of mankind has become almost criminal to the brainwashed liberal mobs.

You can't play the victim and be in control of all branches of government.

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« Reply #853 on: December 15, 2017, 11:00:47 PM »

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This ranks right up there with "access to the internet should be a right" as some of the dumbest crap I've heard in recent times.

I swear I think half this country doesn't have the slightest clue what the difference between a right and a privilege is.

You have the right to purchase the privilege to access the internet if you can afford it. Nothing more, nothing less.

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« Reply #854 on: December 15, 2017, 11:02:04 PM »

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?tid=ss_tw-bottom&utm_term=.9fd4a06d4f9c

Maybe its because i’m a doctor, but is it concerning to anyone that in the US, religious zealots could bar a public health division of our nation from using certain wordsin their public health literature?

This is really bizarre. Obviously logic is not something this administration cares much about.