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Re: Who may become or is a disgruntled star we could trade for soon?
« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2015, 06:16:23 PM »

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Paul George and DeMarcus Cousins are the only two I'm interested in.  I'd be interested in your Noels, Parsons or DeRozans if we landed one of those two, but they're all second bananas.  We need a first banana or bust.  Ben Simmons will be that for us, plus he'll be healthy and on a rookie contract.

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« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2015, 07:12:29 PM »

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Cousins for sure, but I see two problems with that:

1) I think the Kings will get much better when he returns
2) He seems to be loyal to a fault

Nerlens Noel could be a possibility - he's already been around two wooden spoon 76ers teams, and he seems to be a pretty competitive guy.  I'm honestly not too sure how long he will be able to stand for the constant losing.  My guess is he'll probably stick around this year, but if next year starts just as badly he'll probably want out.  Who knows though - he might even get fed up midway through this season and try to force a trade.

Gasol, Conley and Randolph might be options if the Grizzlies continue to struggle.  The are 3-5 right now with the fourth worst win differential in the NBA.

Theddeus Young wouldn't be a bad piece for us, if the Nets decide to blow it up.  He's not a star but he would be a huge upgrade for us at the SF spot, and would improve our starting unit dramatically.

Al Jefferson maybe, if you really want to go there.  Not sure I do (with our existing defensive woes up front) but might be an option.

Unfortunately I don't see any huge name stars who look likely to want out.  Maybe Carmelo if the Knicks drop off hard (i suspect they will) or Dwight Howard if the Rockets fall apart and prove to not be as good as suspected - but that's a bit gamble with his health and attitude concerns.

Noah is an obvious one, since he's only getting 17 minutes a game in Chicago and may well get frustrated with his role in time.  I wouldn't be opposed to going after him, but I wouldn't want to overpay  He has declined in a huge way...but he'd still be a big upgrade as a rim protector. 

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« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2015, 07:46:25 PM »

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Paul George and DeMarcus Cousins are the only two I'm interested in.  I'd be interested in your Noels, Parsons or DeRozans if we landed one of those two, but they're all second bananas.  We need a first banana or bust.  Ben Simmons will be that for us, plus he'll be healthy and on a rookie contract.

Paul George or Ben Simmons? Choose 1 only.
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« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2015, 08:14:11 PM »

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Re: Who may become or is a disgruntled star we could trade for soon?
« Reply #79 on: November 10, 2015, 08:38:00 PM »

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Paul George and DeMarcus Cousins are the only two I'm interested in.  I'd be interested in your Noels, Parsons or DeRozans if we landed one of those two, but they're all second bananas.  We need a first banana or bust.  Ben Simmons will be that for us, plus he'll be healthy and on a rookie contract.

Paul George or Ben Simmons? Choose 1 only.
Dont really know simmons enough to make a really good call here, but I think that Id lean Simmons (if he ends up a Wiggins-Towns level prospect) because he isnt coming off a huge injury and his contract is 20 mil cheaper.

That being said George is a far superior player. Its really to soon to say. Does George bounce back is Simmons a potential superstar? Does Danny think he can build a contender around Geore or is the timeline closer towards building a contender in 2-3 years.
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« Reply #80 on: November 10, 2015, 08:58:32 PM »

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I'm not sure why so many people are saying Paul George.
He looks even better than pre injury andnthey just drafted Miles Turner.

PG is their top 10 guy and they have no reason to trade him away.
Larry Bird has a history of preferring established talent over picks-but that's irrelevant anyway.

If you were the Pacers and you had PG locked up till 2018 (and a player option until 2019), why would you trade him?

Jimmy Butler is a different case because of the 'reported' friction between him and Rose.
Noah is on the decline and Gasol is playing great but he's not the Gasol he once was.
There's potential there as a disgruntled star but it's a reach.
Right now there simply aren't any options other than Cousins.
But I do feel we'll have a good shot at him if we land the #1 pick...let's hope things get rockier with Karl and hopefully Rondo puts in a good word about the C's.
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« Reply #81 on: November 11, 2015, 01:17:42 AM »

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I don't think George will become available, but if we are patient I could easily see us landing Cousins. Sacramento has been a basketball dump for years and I think the time is coming that Cousins asks to leave rather than Sacramento deciding to trade him. If Utah continues to be sub-par I highly doubt they stick with Gordon Hayward because he hasn't exactly taken that next step for a player being paid that substantially and let's be honest Celtic fans, who wouldn't want the Stevens-Hayward pairing.

Re: Who may become or is a disgruntled star we could trade for soon?
« Reply #82 on: November 11, 2015, 01:30:37 AM »

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I'm not sure why so many people are saying Paul George.
He looks even better than pre injury andnthey just drafted Miles Turner.

PG is their top 10 guy and they have no reason to trade him away.
Larry Bird has a history of preferring established talent over picks-but that's irrelevant anyway.

If you were the Pacers and you had PG locked up till 2018 (and a player option until 2019), why would you trade him?

Jimmy Butler is a different case because of the 'reported' friction between him and Rose.
Noah is on the decline and Gasol is playing great but he's not the Gasol he once was.
There's potential there as a disgruntled star but it's a reach.
Right now there simply aren't any options other than Cousins.
But I do feel we'll have a good shot at him if we land the #1 pick...let's hope things get rockier with Karl and hopefully Rondo puts in a good word about the C's.

Not unless there was something going on behind the scene with him. Seems like he is a good dude so... HELL NO HE CAN'T GO! :)
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« Reply #83 on: November 11, 2015, 03:20:22 PM »

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I don't think George will become available, but if we are patient I could easily see us landing Cousins. Sacramento has been a basketball dump for years and I think the time is coming that Cousins asks to leave rather than Sacramento deciding to trade him. If Utah continues to be sub-par I highly doubt they stick with Gordon Hayward because he hasn't exactly taken that next step for a player being paid that substantially and let's be honest Celtic fans, who wouldn't want the Stevens-Hayward pairing.
I like Heyward as one. But Utah is playing Great so i think they ride him this year. Thaddeus Young is another piece to consider to help attract people next year. He is a Team guy.
If we get DMC before trade deadline we may be able to get Young too.
Tyreke Evans maybe available IF NO keeps sucking.
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Re: Who may become or is a disgruntled star we could trade for soon?
« Reply #84 on: November 15, 2015, 09:46:50 PM »

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I would give up Nets pick in both 2016 and 2018 for either Paul George or Jimmy Butler.  Use David Lee for salary filler and throw in James Young - who cares.

The whole point of the draft is trying to get a good player. Butler and Young are what you are hoping to get in the draft, so I would rather have a sure thing.

Put one of them with the trio of Smart, Sullinger, and Thomas and this team is really good. Even if you don't keep Amir, Jerebko, Turner, Zeller, there is still a bench of Olynyk, Bradley, Crowder plus the three rookies. Throw all free agent money in the Al Horford basket this summer or keep Amir if can't get Horford.

Big question would be how much will Sullinger cost now? Will there be any free agancy money of there is a trade for George or Butler and also re-signing Sullinger?

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« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2015, 11:55:37 AM »

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Why isn't Anthony Davis mentioned? He's too good to waste away in NO. Especially now with them being I think 1 and 8 ? if they keep losing at that pace wouldn't he be a prime candidate to become disgruntled and want out?
  I honestly don't really know the details of his contract etc and obviously NO would not want him to leave at all - but it's clear hes really good while his team really isn't - that usually leads to a trade demand or something these days.
 


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« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2015, 11:58:37 AM »

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I would give up Nets pick in both 2016 and 2018 for either Paul George or Jimmy Butler.  Use David Lee for salary filler and throw in James Young - who cares.

The whole point of the draft is trying to get a good player. Butler and Young are what you are hoping to get in the draft, so I would rather have a sure thing.

Put one of them with the trio of Smart, Sullinger, and Thomas and this team is really good. Even if you don't keep Amir, Jerebko, Turner, Zeller, there is still a bench of Olynyk, Bradley, Crowder plus the three rookies. Throw all free agent money in the Al Horford basket this summer or keep Amir if can't get Horford.

Big question would be how much will Sullinger cost now? Will there be any free agancy money of there is a trade for George or Butler and also re-signing Sullinger?
Id' give them up for Paul George but not Jimmy Butler. I don't think Jimmy is a top 10 player yet.
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« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2015, 07:18:27 PM »

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Why isn't Anthony Davis mentioned? He's too good to waste away in NO. Especially now with them being I think 1 and 8 ? if they keep losing at that pace wouldn't he be a prime candidate to become disgruntled and want out?
  I honestly don't really know the details of his contract etc and obviously NO would not want him to leave at all - but it's clear hes really good while his team really isn't - that usually leads to a trade demand or something these days.
 

He has a five year extension that doesn't even kick in until next year. I'm not sure what teams could even afford him. OKC might be, but I doubt they'd even be able to. Anthony Davis isn't going anywhere for a very long time.
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« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2015, 08:52:15 PM »

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Why isn't Anthony Davis mentioned? He's too good to waste away in NO. Especially now with them being I think 1 and 8 ? if they keep losing at that pace wouldn't he be a prime candidate to become disgruntled and want out?
  I honestly don't really know the details of his contract etc and obviously NO would not want him to leave at all - but it's clear hes really good while his team really isn't - that usually leads to a trade demand or something these days.
 

He has a five year extension that doesn't even kick in until next year. I'm not sure what teams could even afford him. OKC might be, but I doubt they'd even be able to. Anthony Davis isn't going anywhere for a very long time.

It's still fun to think of him anchoring our defense, though...and we thought we were a solid defensive unit now.

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« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2015, 09:16:27 PM »

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Kevin Durant may be in our way. OKC may give up on him due to his injury concerns.