Who may become or is a disgruntled star we could trade for soon?

[PhoSita]

Yeah but would Philly even want to trade Okafor or Noel? Couldn't they just try to get a better 1 2 an 3 and be a winning team next year?

I think that's probably what they'll do.  Maybe they'll balk at signing Noel to a big deal though -- if they're not sure he's a star / a good fit with Okafor.

Still, I think the most likely scenario is what you describe.  They stick with Noel and Okafor for at least another year or two and try to put actual starting caliber talents next to them at the 1, 2, and 3, and continue to develop role players who can help them off the bench.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

No one is saying it, but I will.

DeMarcus Cousins.

It could be very volatile in Sacramento, and once it goes crazy there, we could swoop in.

We have the great contracts in Lee or Amir Johnson, draft picks, solid role players in Tyler Zeller, Evan Turner, Jonas Jerebko, Avery Bradely, along with young guys in RJ Hunter, Kelly Olynyk, Jared Sullinger, Terry Rozier.

So, David Lee/Amir Johnson (although I want to keep Amir, him and Cousins would do great together), the Dallas pick, our own (any year), a couple of 2nds, Evan Turner, Kelly Olynyk and RJ Hunter is a great package to offer Sacramento once DMC says he wants out.

Not really a high asset in that. Hard to do quantity for quality.

Two quality bigs who can still play and offer a lot offensively or defensively, while both being expiring so they could move on right away if they didn't work. They can have either one.

Two first round picks, one being in a potential top 12.

A big who can solve their spacing issues and at worst, is a rotational player. A player on is 20's who also can put numbers. And a high value kid who can be one of the best shooters in the league at best, and a Marco Bellineli type at the minimum.

I mean we could add more to that, but I think that's a solid starting point for a DMC negotiation.

[slamtheking]

Yeah but would Philly even want to trade Okafor or Noel? Couldn't they just try to get a better 1 2 an 3 and be a winning team next year?

I think that's probably what they'll do.  Maybe they'll balk at signing Noel to a big deal though -- if they're not sure he's a star / a good fit with Okafor.

Still, I think the most likely scenario is what you describe.  They stick with Noel and Okafor for at least another year or two and try to put actual starting caliber talents next to them at the 1, 2, and 3, and continue to develop role players who can help them off the bench.

oh they can try.  they'll fail if they try, but they might try.

it's not like good FA's are going to be looking at Philly as a prime landing spot regardless of how much $ Philly may offer.  anyone who's really starting caliber will be looking at other teams who will have a bunch of cap room and aren't in the mess that Philly's in. 

[Hemingway]

Yeah DMC makes the most sense right now. Lee, 2 Nets picks and 1 Dallas pick for Big Cuz is probably a lot more realistic.

DMC/Zeller
Amir/Sully/KO
Crowder/Turner/JJ
AB/IT
Smart/Rozier

[LooseCannon]

Not necessarily soon, but imagine if Durant leaves OKC next summer and Westbrook lets it be known that if KD is gone, then he will be gone, and Ainge gives up Smart and multiple firsts for a rental of Westbrook and a year to convince him to stay in Boston.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Yeah DMC makes the most sense right now. Lee, 2 Nets picks and 1 Dallas pick for Big Cuz is probably a lot more realistic.

DMC/Zeller
Amir/Sully/KO
Crowder/Turner/JJ
AB/IT
Smart/Rozier

The way the Nets are playing it probably will be a great pick.

[Tr1boy]

Maybe PaulGeorge. Pacers look horrible

[The_Truth]

Maybe PaulGeorge. Pacers look horrible

May God listen to you

[coffee425]

I think it's time to put Bradley Beal in this conversation.

He is playing out of his mind and doesn't seem to have any interest or care with the discussions to bring Kevin Durant to Washington. His talent is clear and seems like the confident type that would rather play as the top dog scorer than being 3rd option to Wall and KD. For Washington, they may have to make this decision to keep/trade Beal eventually and Boston is asset-loaded for this type of move.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Yeah DMC makes the most sense right now. Lee, 2 Nets picks and 1 Dallas pick for Big Cuz is probably a lot more realistic.

DMC/Zeller
Amir/Sully/KO
Crowder/Turner/JJ
AB/IT
Smart/Rozier

The are having a players only meeting soon. DMC looks like he wants something to break. Loving every minute of it. Every day our coach is the coach everyone wants to play for and we have 3 nets picks and they suck and will suck.
Thaddeus Young for a 2nd round pick. Billy King is that stupid.

[Monkhouse]

I think it's time to put Bradley Beal in this conversation.

He is playing out of his mind and doesn't seem to have any interest or care with the discussions to bring Kevin Durant to Washington. His talent is clear and seems like the confident type that would rather play as the top dog scorer than being 3rd option to Wall and KD. For Washington, they may have to make this decision to keep/trade Beal eventually and Boston is asset-loaded for this type of move.

Where's the evidence to support this? I don't see Bradley Beal leaving WAS, considering WAS would be foolish to let him go, especially since shelling out a max for him is a no-brainer at this point.

[ssspence]

Maybe they'll balk at signing Noel to a big deal though -- if they're not sure he's a star / a good fit with Okafor.

This is a reach. They don't need to be sure he's a star, because he already is one -- full blown. There's no logical reason to trade Noel. His plastic man versatility and high post preference fits just fine with JO.

Two pretty amazing building blocks they have there in Philly.

[SHAQATTACK]

Unless Philly decides to bring in some vets and actually field a NBA to go with their Rookies ,  then I would be very frustrated as a player on that club

If I was Oakfor or Noel I'd want out ......bad
I would want out ASAP......bad situation .......who wants to play where the idea,is too Lose.

That's horrible way to,start your career on a team that the GM is purposely making your team bad.

[MBunge]

Yeah but would Philly even want to trade Okafor or Noel? Couldn't they just try to get a better 1 2 an 3 and be a winning team next year?

I think that's probably what they'll do.  Maybe they'll balk at signing Noel to a big deal though -- if they're not sure he's a star / a good fit with Okafor.

Still, I think the most likely scenario is what you describe.  They stick with Noel and Okafor for at least another year or two and try to put actual starting caliber talents next to them at the 1, 2, and 3, and continue to develop role players who can help them off the bench.

The issue with Philly is that young players, no matter how great, almost never win in the NBA.  I mean, the Thunder had to have Durant AND Westbrook AND Harden.

In the best realistic scenario, Philly will tank this year and still be bad to mediocre for another 2 or three after that even if they're trying to win.  And what if Hinkie decides to keep the tank on?

Mike

[PhoSita]

Yeah but would Philly even want to trade Okafor or Noel? Couldn't they just try to get a better 1 2 an 3 and be a winning team next year?

I think that's probably what they'll do.  Maybe they'll balk at signing Noel to a big deal though -- if they're not sure he's a star / a good fit with Okafor.

Still, I think the most likely scenario is what you describe.  They stick with Noel and Okafor for at least another year or two and try to put actual starting caliber talents next to them at the 1, 2, and 3, and continue to develop role players who can help them off the bench.

The issue with Philly is that young players, no matter how great, almost never win in the NBA.  I mean, the Thunder had to have Durant AND Westbrook AND Harden.

In the best realistic scenario, Philly will tank this year and still be bad to mediocre for another 2 or three after that even if they're trying to win.  And what if Hinkie decides to keep the tank on?

Mike

My understanding of Philly's plan is that they'll keep up with the full-on youth movement until they've got a few players in place that they regard as stars, with at least one guy who can be called a "superstar."

Presumably, at that point they'll be willing to consider spending some money on veteran free agents who can help fill out the roster.

It's true that young players rarely win, but if you've got plenty of talent and some veteran leaders plus a decent coach, the wins will come.

That's how it went down for the Thunder, and I think all along the Sixers have been attempting to duplicate what the Thunder did.