You hate Sully so much you're even saying that Tristan Thompson is a better basketball player which I just can't agree with. He's a role player with a rebounding specialty who gets rebounds against 2nd units and putback dunks and dunks around the basket. He has effort on the defensive end especially in switches (because he's frequently targeted in the pick and roll) but he's still a huge target for switches like we saw in the NBA finals when the Warriors switched on to him almost every time
I don't hate him, let us make that clear. But I did not fall for him like many here on the forums do. I fully admit he is a good passer and a rebounder. I dislike guys who are lazy and do not play D which he is one of those guys. But I do not actively wish ill on him.
It is patently absurd for you to make a claim that Thompson has worst lateral movement than Sullinger. I have been pointing out his flaws since he was drafted and I wager I have seen more of him since I am from Ohio and able to watch tons of OSU basketball. I dislike his attitude and was on to his character flaws well before it became popular. But I never not acknowledged what he did well. So call it hate if you must but it was never blind. Which I can't say for those who love Sullinger. They make claims he a good defender yet, are unable to post these stats or unwilling when asked.
Can ask you one question? DO YOU EVER GET TIRED OF MAKING EXCUSES FOR HIM? I think of lot of his rests squarely on him. He squandered his opportunity, he did not take care of his body. His effort is not always consistent with his words or what is needed on the court.
I also live in Ohio and have the benefits of watching more CAVS games ( which I do not) and reading about them in the local papers, hear about them on sports radio. I prefer to watch the Celts, I am not even a passing Cavs fan, but I hear about them a lot.
I call BS that his production was against second units. Love was hurt in seven games last year and played 33 MPG. Therefore Thompson did not all his minutes at PF he played some at C. Because he played 27 MPG. It is truly amazing that you did not comprehend this with your assertion because your not a dumb guy by any means . Love was hurt for the majority of the playoffs. For a while, in the season, and I do not expect you to know this as your out of market would be my guess. Blatt did not play Love in the fourth in some games. The Cavs played a lot of small ball too.
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2014/12/david_blatt_chose_to_go_withou.htmlLike I said, those who support Sullinger are probably more blind than I am in my dislike of him. Noticed that I admitted in the above post that he was better at scoring and more versatile. I freely admitted this, I can't say the of the guys who support Sully in admitting his faults. In fact, I will admit if I am wrong about something, something that a lot of guys here just won't do.
I didn't say Sully was only against starters, I said the majority of his time on the court was vs starting NBA players and the majority of Thompson's time was versus 2nd unit guys. That's completely true. I think you'd find if Sully took the same point blank range shots that Thompson takes, his offensive rebounding numbers would be almost identical to Thompson's. He shoots threes and jumpshots that often keep him away from the basket. Thompson has one job: rebound.
I think that would be the case as well, I think he would rebound better and probably be more efficient, I practically said this in my post in playing to his strengths. But the problem is he does not play to his strengths. He has said that he would this season but the fact is it may be too late. I think that no coach will endorse you missing shot after shot, some games he was 1-5. They also are not going to say overtly negative stuff about him because at some point they may want to trade him. The real issue is one guy does what he is good at, the other guy does not.
Sully has had the job of scoring, rebounding and facilitating.
Also, your making sound like he like he is a pojnt forward, while he is a good passer, he is not a point forward. I would settle for a little less of facilitating and him running the court or defending. Why have not those been part of his job up to this point?
He works harder on both ends of the court and the off season, he is a better defender and a better rebounder.
I would settle for he works on both ends of the court. You are playing D half the game, and Sully does not even try in this regard. He also lacks the tools. He was in the bottom of his class in lane agility and 3/4 sprint. Combine that with "thinking he is the man" and lack of effort on D and it is a [dang]ing combination.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-nba-combine-athleticism-resultsIt would be different if his positives outweighed his negatives but that is not always the case with Sully. It happened a few games like the NO one and the CHI game, he was practically useless in back to back games though with his conditioning. Sometimes talented guys do not pan out as pros. He may prove me wrong and if it helps the C's I am all for it.
Do you think he is a good fit for CBS's system?
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/6624/jared-sullingerBottom line is we played well without him. 19-10 with Jonas playing some of his minutes. A lot of that was due to IT being here. But some of it was due to the fact, that we could run, lost a guy who did not play D.
Brad Stevens said that Jared Sullinger's conditioning has improved, but hinted that he still has some work to do.
"I think he has improved conditioning-wise," Stevens said. "He’s still, and I think I’ve heard him say this, that he still wants to continue to grow in that area." Sullinger has also reportedly looked a little rusty this week, but we should get a better idea of his progress during the preseason. Amir Johnson and David Lee are still the favorites to start, so Sullinger is only worth a late-round flier at the moment
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1960/jared-sullinger