Harrison Barnes -- rejecting a 4 year/$64 mill contract

[slamtheking]

link: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2557170-harrison-barnes-contract-latest-news-and-rumors-on-negotiations-with-warriors

I know there's been a number of trade proposals to get this guy although for what I consider to be an overpayment.  I think $16 mill per year is pretty generous for what he's accomplished.  It may be just the starting point where he negotiates upward or he may be looking for a short deal to hit free agency sooner (can't find the article/link where I saw that mentioned as a possibility yesterday)

Any general thoughts out there as to whether they think he's doing the right or wrong thing to reject the deal?

[Who]

Seems like a good deal for an average starting SF like H.Barnes. Set for life after signing that deal. Still plenty of years left to earn more down the road. I think he should have taken it.

[PhoSita]

Isn't $16 million per year the maximum he can get per year on his next deal?

If he rejected it, I imagine he believes he'd be better off taking a shorter deal and then getting more than that after a couple of years.

[slamtheking]

I think the shorter contract to get to free agency again quicker is the angle he's playing.  would you agree that's foolish not to take the sure thing?

Personally, I think that deal would set him for life and with plenty of time to hit free agency for another big contract while in his prime.  if he takes a 1-year deal it'd still be for good money but he risks a losing a lot more down the line if he's injured this year.

[PhoSita]

I think the shorter contract to get to free agency again quicker is the angle he's playing.  would you agree that's foolish not to take the sure thing?

I do agree.  Barnes looks like a solid player to me, but I don't think he is any sort of sure thing to "blow up" if he went to a team where he'd have a larger role.  I'm not sure any team is going to give him a megadeal based on the potential he's shown and little else. 

Solid starter money is probably the best he can hope for, and with the cap going up, solid starter money is a LOT of money.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

16m per is NOT solid starter money, AB @8 is solid starter money. 16m is star money b/c it's max for him. Sully may not be a defender (lazy) but some of you would lose it if we only offered him 10, and Sully is a big with a lot of potential left too! Many people make less than 16m and are better than he is!

[Big333223]

He must think he's about the have a breakout year.

[Moranis]

I'm pretty sure that isn't a max contract offer, but I also think he expects when the cap increases next summer he will get a much larger contract. 

[tarheelsxxiii]

I believe I read that after he rejected the offer he fired his manager and has since hired a new one. On phone, unable to post source here.

[Evantime34]

I think it's a smart move by him. So many teams will have cap space next year and there isn't enough talent to go around for all that cap space. I would be surprised if he didn't get the max next year when the cap rises.

[KeepRondo]

Smart move. He's forcing Golden State to resign him to a higher value then he's worth. If they don't resign him, they won't have the cap space to replace his talent. It's putting Golden State in a tough spot.

Seems similar to what Tristan Thompson is doing.

[saltlover]

Isn't $16 million per year the maximum he can get per year on his next deal?

If he rejected it, I imagine he believes he'd be better off taking a shorter deal and then getting more than that after a couple of years.

No, it isn't.  $16 million is the max for a contract that starts this year, but next year, the max for someone with his experience is projected to be around $20 million for year one, with max raises of about $1 million per year.  In other words, if he signs a max 4-year deal next summer with some other team, it would be around 4 years, $86 million, or about 1/3 more than the deal he rejected.

[PhoSita]

Isn't $16 million per year the maximum he can get per year on his next deal?

If he rejected it, I imagine he believes he'd be better off taking a shorter deal and then getting more than that after a couple of years.

No, it isn't.  $16 million is the max for a contract that starts this year, but next year, the max for someone with his experience is projected to be around $20 million for year one, with max raises of about $1 million per year.  In other words, if he signs a max 4-year deal next summer with some other team, it would be around 4 years, $86 million, or about 1/3 more than the deal he rejected.

Ah okay, that makes a lot of sense.

I thought the cap on deals for players coming off their rookie deal was around $16 million, but that must have been for players signing this summer, not next summer.

Totally makes sense for Barnes to turn it down.  Next summer lots of players will get deals above and beyond what their value would be in a normal free agent market because so many teams will have tons of cap space.

Somebody will pay Barnes big money next summer.  Wouldn't shock me if it's the Celtics.

[SHAQATTACK]

Sounded very generous .  He isn't LeBron .

I bet the Lakers will pay more .

After all. ,,

They just resigned

The great

Meta World Thug ! 

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Isn't $16 million per year the maximum he can get per year on his next deal?

If he rejected it, I imagine he believes he'd be better off taking a shorter deal and then getting more than that after a couple of years.

No, it isn't.  $16 million is the max for a contract that starts this year, but next year, the max for someone with his experience is projected to be around $20 million for year one, with max raises of about $1 million per year.  In other words, if he signs a max 4-year deal next summer with some other team, it would be around 4 years, $86 million, or about 1/3 more than the deal he rejected.

Ah okay, that makes a lot of sense.

I thought the cap on deals for players coming off their rookie deal was around $16 million, but that must have been for players signing this summer, not next summer.

Totally makes sense for Barnes to turn it down.  Next summer lots of players will get deals above and beyond what their value would be in a normal free agent market because so many teams will have tons of cap space.

Somebody will pay Barnes big money next summer.  Wouldn't shock me if it's the Celtics.

I wasn't saying no about it being his max, I don't know. My objection was about "solid starter money." 16m is for a star if it is at his max or close to it. Heck, 16m is a lot even with the raises in cap.

These guys deserve to get stupid money b/c they are the ones doing the entertaining but WOW, these are crazy dollars for players who are good but nothing special (yet).