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Re: Red Sox Firing Don Orsillo?
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2015, 12:39:44 PM »

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I've always wondered how much this means in baseball. I mean, the Sox are an evidence that you can go last to first to last without even tinkering with players/personnel much.  Sometimes I think most baseball championships can be chiefly ascribed to simple volatility in performance.
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Re: Red Sox Firing Don Orsillo?
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2015, 12:45:54 PM »

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Why is this leaked out now?  If they want to make a change, wait until the season is over and make the change.  Now Orsillo is going to be on TV every night for the next 5 weeks knowing he's been fired and knowing the audience knows he's been fired.  How awkward.

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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2015, 12:52:32 PM »

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Only thing I would consider more surprising than Orsillo being let go (whether by his choice or theirs) by the Sox is if Mike Gorman were let go by CSNNE.

Barring some unforeseen scandal, I have to think the position is Gorman's as long as he wants.

I think I'd boycott the Celts if they fired Gorman.  The guy is as good as they come.  He very rarely says dumb things, and he's been able to work next to the biggest homer in the NBA while maintaining great chemistry. 

I compare the Tommy & Mike booth to Madden & Summerall.  All four belong in their respective Halls of Fame.


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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2015, 12:54:19 PM »

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Only thing I would consider more surprising than Orsillo being let go (whether by his choice or theirs) by the Sox is if Mike Gorman were let go by CSNNE.

Barring some unforeseen scandal, I have to think the position is Gorman's as long as he wants.

I think I'd boycott the Celts if they fired Gorman.  The guy is as good as they come.  He very rarely says dumb things, and he's been able to work next to the biggest homer in the NBA while maintaining great chemistry. 

I compare the Tommy & Mike booth to Madden & Summerall.  All four belong in their respective Halls of Fame.

Yup.  The insane thing to ponder now too is that Gorman/Heinsohn has spent more seasons together than Madden/Summerall did.


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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2015, 01:01:43 PM »

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So the question becomes, if you can only have one, do you take Most or Gorman?

for the record, I actually cannot answer that question.

Also! Found this while revisiting "Havlicek Stole The Ball!". Figured a lot of posters haven't watched this recently (or ever):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu5vMfPtbw
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2015, 01:03:27 PM »

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I've always wondered how much this means in baseball. I mean, the Sox are an evidence that you can go last to first to last without even tinkering with players/personnel much.  Sometimes I think most baseball championships can be chiefly ascribed to simple volatility in performance.

If you look at the past winners and runners up, that's not really true.

The Giants have won 3 out of the last 5 Championships.  The Cardinals have been to 4 of the last 10, winning twice, and have the league's best record this year.  The Red Sox have won 3 times in 11 years.  The Rangers were runners up in 2010 & 2011.  The Phillies won in 2008 and were runners up in 2009. 

Obviously, the Red Sox went 86 years without winning while the Yankees won 20+ times.

2013 was a bit of a fluke, but the team has been dysfunctionally built for the past several years with a lot of talent on the roster.  The Royals are contenders now, but they have been on the rise for a few years.

Money might be the biggest factor in having a consistent contender, but a good front office isn't far behind.

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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2015, 01:06:47 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2015, 01:09:28 PM »

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Gorman is the best.

Agreed in the modern era, but I mean, he doesn't have anything nearly as iconic as HSTB. Which is still so rad 50 years later.

I'm sure when I watch old C's broadcasts after Gorman has retired it'll be a moment to remember how rad he was, but I don't know that he touches Most?
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2015, 01:21:04 PM »

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So the question becomes, if you can only have one, do you take Most or Gorman?

for the record, I actually cannot answer that question.

Also! Found this while revisiting "Havlicek Stole The Ball!". Figured a lot of posters haven't watched this recently (or ever):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu5vMfPtbw
tbh, I think Tommy covers the homer material for Mike. 

I think Gorman and Most are equals.  Gorman is the smooth professional that has so much insight he could be doing the color commentary and provides the level-headed delivery with some exclamations of excitement thrown in on those special plays.

Most had a penchant for great quotes and villifying the opposition.  still love his calls of the Pistons games from the 80's -- particularly concerning Laimbeer.

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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2015, 03:31:23 PM »

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Gorman is the best.

Agreed in the modern era, but I mean, he doesn't have anything nearly as iconic as HSTB. Which is still so rad 50 years later.

I'm sure when I watch old C's broadcasts after Gorman has retired it'll be a moment to remember how rad he was, but I don't know that he touches Most?

It will be hard for Gorman to have iconic moments on that level since he's limited to regular season games and the first round of the playoffs. I wish we had the choice to hear Mike and Tommy throughout playoff games. Would have been awesome in 2008.

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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2015, 03:41:14 PM »

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Gorman is the best.

Agreed in the modern era, but I mean, he doesn't have anything nearly as iconic as HSTB. Which is still so rad 50 years later.

I'm sure when I watch old C's broadcasts after Gorman has retired it'll be a moment to remember how rad he was, but I don't know that he touches Most?

It will be hard for Gorman to have iconic moments on that level since he's limited to regular season games and the first round of the playoffs. I wish we had the choice to hear Mike and Tommy throughout playoff games. Would have been awesome in 2008.
agreed - so disappointing not being able to listen to them after the first round.

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So the question becomes, if you can only have one, do you take Most or Gorman?

for the record, I actually cannot answer that question.

Also! Found this while revisiting "Havlicek Stole The Ball!". Figured a lot of posters haven't watched this recently (or ever):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu5vMfPtbw

Most was a master of radio, but horrible for TV. Mike is more balanced, subtle, better suited for TV.

They are both media icons. I fell in love with the Celtics through Johnny Most broadcasts from the '60's.

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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2015, 06:31:43 PM »

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Nice piece on the Orsillo situation from Yahoo.

I still can't believe Orsillo got fired because one guy higher up the chain didn't like him. Don and Remdog are the best. So entertaining. I just watched a replay of the pizza incident embedded in that Yahoo story—man, I loved it when Orsillo and Remy got laughing and couldn't stop! I'll miss that.
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2015, 07:11:50 PM »

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Nice piece on the Orsillo situation from Yahoo.

I still can't believe Orsillo got fired because one guy higher up the chain didn't like him. Don and Remdog are the best. So entertaining. I just watched a replay of the pizza incident embedded in that Yahoo story—man, I loved it when Orsillo and Remy got laughing and couldn't stop! I'll miss that.

yea this made me really sad... spent 10 plus years listening to that guy. Seems like he was there before 2001