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I just thought this list was interesting given how we think of Brad as both a young - and new - coach.

Ranking of coaches based on tenure:

1. Gregg Popovich, Spurs: December 1996
2. Erik Spoelstra, Heat: April 2008
3. Rick Carlisle, Mavericks: May 2008
4. Frank Vogel, Pacers: January 2011 (interim; permanent since July 2011)
5. Kevin McHale, Rockets: June 2011
6. Dwane Casey, Raptors: June 2011
7. Randy Wittman, Wizards: January 2012 (interim; permanent since June 2012)
8. Terry Stotts, Trail Blazers: August 2012
9. Jeff Hornacek, Suns: May 2013
10. Mike Budenholzer, Hawks: May 2013
11. Steve Clifford, Hornets: May 2013
12. Dave Joerger, Grizzlies: June 2013
13. Doc Rivers, Clippers: June 2013
14. Brad Stevens, Celtics: July 2013
15. Brett Brown, Sixers: August 2013
16. Stan Van Gundy, Pistons: May 2014
17. Steve Kerr, Warriors: May 2014
18. Flip Saunders, Timberwolves: June 2014
19. Quin Snyder, Jazz: June 2014
20. Derek Fisher, Knicks: June 2014
21. David Blatt, Cavs: June 2014
22. Jason Kidd, Bucks: July 2014
23. Lionel Hollins, Nets: July 2014
24. Byron Scott, Lakers: July 2014
25. George Karl, Kings: February 2015
26. Billy Donovan, Thunder: April 30, 2015
27. Scott Skiles, Magic: May 29, 2015
28. Alvin Gentry, Pelicans: May 31, 2015*
29. Fred Hoiberg, Bulls: June 2, 2015
30. Michael Malone, Nuggets: June 15, 2015

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/08/longest-tenured-nba-head-coaches.html

FWIW, here is my "hot seat" list:

George Karl - the noise continues out of Sactown viz. Boogie
Dwane Casey - I think he was lucky to survive last year, and I anticipate this year will be one of 
                     under-achievement for Toronto
Byron Scott - an easy and obvious scape-goat for another playoff-less season
Flip Saunders - based on illness and dual job

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Ainge didn't hire Stevens with the expectation that we'd be winning games, so why would he fire him for losing them?

I should clarify, I guess, that this tends to be the main criteria for continued employment in regards to most of the coaches on the bottom half of the list.
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Brett Brown's job might be as secure as anybody's, at least for the next year or two.

Why bother spending money a new coach when winning and developing players in the here and now is of minimal importance anyway?
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Brett Brown's job might be as secure as anybody's, at least for the next year or two.

Why bother spending money a new coach when winning and developing players in the here and now is of minimal importance anyway?
well that and he is a darn good coach.
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Correct. It wouldn't surprise me if he wound up with a more successful NBA coaching career than Brad Stevens, actually.
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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Crazy that there are only 3 coaches from before 2010 still in their jobs.

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I maintain that the fact that Brett Brown has managed to avoid finishing with the league-worst record in his two years as head coach speaks volumes to his coaching ability. Give Mike Woodson or Kurt Rambis those same Sixers teams and their win totals would be in the single digits.

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So what are the thoughts on the first coach to lose his job this season?

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So what are the thoughts on the first coach to lose his job this season?
Fred at #29 isn't going to have a lot of wiggle room
Carlisle could per usual implode, likewise Byron scott

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I think Lionel Hollins will get fired in Brooklyn. I think their season is going to go much worse than they expect and Hollins will be the one to pay the price for personnel decisions / cost cutting moves made by their GM and Owner.

Steve Clifford in Charlotte is another one. If the Bobcats miss the playoffs again next year, surely he is out the door. I don't think MJ is the type to take responsibility for his own mistakes. He'll scapegoat the coach.

I think Byron Scott will get fired at the end of the season. I think Dwayne Casey goes this year as well. Wittman has a good chance of being canned as well.

Vogel in Indiana is in a dicey situation. I think Indiana will have a much harder time replacing Hibbert and D.West than they are expecting. Tough to change identity of the team so swiftly from slow-down defensive team to an uptempo offensive team. Big test for Vogel.

George Karl will surely get fired at some point also.


.... I'll go with Steve Clifford as my pick for 1st coach to get fired this season.

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Ranking of coaches based on tenure:

16. Stan Van Gundy, Pistons: May 2014
17. Steve Kerr, Warriors: May 2014
18. Flip Saunders, Timberwolves: June 2014
19. Quin Snyder, Jazz: June 2014
20. Derek Fisher, Knicks: June 2014
21. David Blatt, Cavs: June 2014
22. Jason Kidd, Bucks: July 2014
23. Lionel Hollins, Nets: July 2014
24. Byron Scott, Lakers: July 2014
25. George Karl, Kings: February 2015
26. Billy Donovan, Thunder: April 30, 2015
27. Scott Skiles, Magic: May 29, 2015
28. Alvin Gentry, Pelicans: May 31, 2015*
29. Fred Hoiberg, Bulls: June 2, 2015
30. Michael Malone, Nuggets: June 15, 2015

It's crazy -- I just realized half of the head coaches in the league have only held their job for one season or less.


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So what are the thoughts on the first coach to lose his job this season?
Fred at #29 isn't going to have a lot of wiggle room
Carlisle could per usual implode, likewise Byron scott

Hoiberg will get the season at least. Carlisle is sort of interesting as one could imagine a scenario (dallas trades Chandler Parsons to Cs for their pick back, plus) where tanking is back on the agenda, but that seems far fetched right now. Agree about Scott though...

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I think Lionel Hollins will get fired in Brooklyn. I think their season is going to go much worse than they expect and Hollins will be the one to pay the price for personnel decisions / cost cutting moves made by their GM and Owner.

Steve Clifford in Charlotte is another one. If the Bobcats miss the playoffs again next year, surely he is out the door. I don't think MJ is the type to take responsibility for his own mistakes. He'll scapegoat the coach.

I think Byron Scott will get fired at the end of the season. I think Dwayne Casey goes this year as well. Wittman has a good chance of being canned as well.

Vogel in Indiana is in a dicey situation. I think Indiana will have a much harder time replacing Hibbert and D.West than they are expecting. Tough to change identity of the team so swiftly from slow-down defensive team to an uptempo offensive team. Big test for Vogel.

George Karl will surely get fired at some point also.


.... I'll go with Steve Clifford as my pick for 1st coach to get fired this season.

Clifford seems like a good choice potentially. Especially with their multi-headed front office, one could imagine MJ looking for scapegoats. Unfairly probably.

The thing that i think gravitates against Hollins losing his job this season is that Prokorov is so clearly in cost cutting mode and he is still on the hook for Hollins for this year and next at $5mill per (with a 4th year option i think).

I disagree about Vogel only in that I think he is a top ten coach in the league who did a great job last year with all their injuries.  There would have to be a real assessment by Bird and Co. that Vogel cant coach the kind of running, a-positional basketball that Bird hints at wanting to run. But I see no reason yet why Bird would reach such an assessment. will be an intersting team to watch, regardless, this year....

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since doc was traded to LA, shouldn't his start date be the one he had with Boston?

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Coaches who'll get canned --

Randy Wittman, finally.

Dwayne Casey; also overdue.

McHale, probably, after the Rockets fail to get to the Finals again.

Jeff Hornacek, after the Suns miss the playoffs again.

Terry Stotts, when the Blazers decide to get somebody more creative to help the team rebuild.


On top of that, I think Flip Saunders will step back and hire somebody else to coach the team after this year.
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