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mickey,rozier and rj vs winslow
« on: August 04, 2015, 05:30:41 AM »

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 might make us forget jusice winslow,winslow has nba ready body  but that advantage he had at SL is nullified once he steps on court-
elite burst ,motor and d for rozier,range quick release and IQ for hunter,and mickey elite bounce and timing-winslow with all his hype may look like a bust
i  sometimes think duke/kentucy guys can coast and not work on their weakness do to extreme talent on team and one and done-
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Re: mickey,rozier and rj vs winslow
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2015, 06:04:14 AM »

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It always looked to me like Winslow was the one prospect with the right motor, but it will take a year or 2-3 to be able to properly evaluate the proposed trade, if only because we apparently also offered a Brooklyn pick. Justise played for Duke however, not Kentucky.

Re: mickey,rozier and rj vs winslow
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2015, 06:19:06 AM »

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TP I was looking to post something similar.  Glad you beat me to the punch. 

In the post draft interviews Danny was asked if he was frustrated by not being able to make a deal.  He said, "no" and that he felt "relieved" that the transaction didn't take place.  He said it would have put a lot of pressure on this player to live up the high expectations. 

I didn't watch any game Winslow played in during the Summer League.  So, can't say if would have been worth the all the picks.  He shot a low percentage from what I read. However, I did get to see a bit of Washington's pick Kelly Oubre.  Lot of people knock his game because he isn't a polished player.  But, I felt he more than made up for it with his physicality.  He simply over-powers players his height or shorter.  Paired with John Wall he might be tough to contain.
 
This may be the same case for Winslow in Miami.  They have a lot of fire power on offense which may mask Winslow offensive deficiencies.  None of the Celtics draft picks have the physical toughness of Winslow.  This may come back to haunt them in the long run. 

Re: mickey,rozier and rj vs winslow
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2015, 07:13:01 AM »

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he is from duke..

and I still would take him over all 3 of our draftees.

Winslow has atleast butler like potential.

Our three draftees are good roleplayers at best.

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2015, 07:58:38 AM »

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It didn't happen so it is moot.   But it looks like he has some adjusting given his SL performance.  I suppose summer league means nothing but aren't you supposed to do good for people to say that?

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2015, 08:12:27 AM »

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I actually think this was Danny's best draft in some time.

Rozier, Hunter and Mickey IMO will all prove to be good players who start at various points in their careers. Rozier and Hunter may become ASs at some point too.

The potential that Rozier has is still underestimated here IMO.

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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2015, 08:17:24 AM »

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I actually think this was Danny's best draft in some time.

Rozier, Hunter and Mickey IMO will all prove to be good players who start at various points in their careers. Rozier and Hunter may become ASs at some point too.

The potential that Rozier has is still underestimated here IMO.

Not sure if it's a typo or an acronym I'm not familiar with...."ASs" ?  (assets?)

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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2015, 08:40:01 AM »

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I actually think this was Danny's best draft in some time.

Rozier, Hunter and Mickey IMO will all prove to be good players who start at various points in their careers. Rozier and Hunter may become ASs at some point too.

The potential that Rozier has is still underestimated here IMO.

Not sure if it's a typo or an acronym I'm not familiar with...."ASs" ?  (assets?)

Maybe he means derrieres?

Seriously,  I read it to mean All Stars.

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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2015, 08:40:28 AM »

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I actually think this was Danny's best draft in some time.

Rozier, Hunter and Mickey IMO will all prove to be good players who start at various points in their careers. Rozier and Hunter may become ASs at some point too.

The potential that Rozier has is still underestimated here IMO.

Not sure if it's a typo or an acronym I'm not familiar with...."ASs" ?  (assets?)

Could be wrong but i think he was meaning to shorten "All-Stars" :)

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2015, 08:42:13 AM »

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I actually think this was Danny's best draft in some time.

Rozier, Hunter and Mickey IMO will all prove to be good players who start at various points in their careers. Rozier and Hunter may become ASs at some point too.

The potential that Rozier has is still underestimated here IMO.

Not sure if it's a typo or an acronym I'm not familiar with...."ASs" ?  (assets?)

Maybe he means derrieres?

Seriously,  I read it to mean All Stars.

"derrieres"  - Quite clever :) TP 

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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2015, 09:05:04 AM »

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I actually think this was Danny's best draft in some time.

Rozier, Hunter and Mickey IMO will all prove to be good players who start at various points in their careers. Rozier and Hunter may become ASs at some point too.

The potential that Rozier has is still underestimated here IMO.

Not sure if it's a typo or an acronym I'm not familiar with...."ASs" ?  (assets?)

Could be wrong but i think he was meaning to shorten "All-Stars" :)

Yes, All-Stars was the intention--thanks.

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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2015, 09:09:11 AM »

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there just was an article on rookies and effciency in SL,the author skipped your big names in first 5 and focused on the sixth most effcient -quess who, rj hunter -3 point bombs,blocks,steals and getting to foul line-
espn kevin pelton ranks him behind towns,kaminsly wright,russell and porzingas-he thinks he is a rookie that could have legit impact-after those two bad first games he hit 39% from 3 and went to the free throw line 5.4 times a game-opps no winslow
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2015, 09:26:33 AM »

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I actually think this was Danny's best draft in some time.

Rozier, Hunter and Mickey IMO will all prove to be good players who start at various points in their careers. Rozier and Hunter may become ASs at some point too.

The potential that Rozier has is still underestimated here IMO.

Not sure if it's a typo or an acronym I'm not familiar with...."ASs" ?  (assets?)

Could be wrong but i think he was meaning to shorten "All-Stars" :)

Yes, All-Stars was the intention--thanks.
actually, i like derrieres better.  ;D
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2015, 10:56:43 AM »

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I'll take Winslow alllll day. Don't let his relatively unspectacular (but not bad) SL performance distract from the fact that he absolutely dominated the NCAA, especially in the second half of the season when he wasn't nagged by injuries. He is arguably a better prospect than Okafor and it is insane that he slid to #10. That said, once you start adding in future picks as well, including a Bkn pick, things start getting murkier.

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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2015, 11:22:49 AM »

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i loved mickey's blockings skill but i was transfixed watching rj unfold,watching him adapt right in front of your eyes ,from drawing fouls ,to assists while patiently navigating the paint,
-i loved his floater and there was one he drew the foul  fading away and too the side and just missed the bank, he clapped his hands in frustration even with the call-he knew it was pretty and wanted the finish
those deep dagger three's just emphasized his range and caused the defence to spread-you could see the game slow for him-i loved the way he ran patterns very prince with his subtle change of pace and timing 
 he improved defensivily using his teamates and hounding his man with those prince like long arms for steals and blocks-it was just plain old fun-
-there is a shooter in the house and maybe much more-