contrary to the posts that have dominated this thread, i like this trade and I'd be pretty happy ending up with either of the 3 you mentioned (gallo/reke/derozan). I think Tyreke slots well at either SG/SF and is an upgrade over Turner. I also don't want the C's to offer Sully an extension.
Well I just don't want to offer them Young. I don't see why people are so intent on overpaying for players that can't shoot. I would like to keep Young or at least Sully in the possibility that they can fetch us a nice return. Yes, rentals are usually low valued, but if Sully does have a dominant performance like 17/9, with good eFG/ and FG %, we can either sign and trade or trade him to a player that can retain him with traded bird rights.
Tyreke isn't worth anything more than a first round pick, and a second rounder which the Pelicans the year before were intent on trading him for.
I really don't like Tyreke, and would rather take on DeRozan or Gallo. Gallo addresses 3 pt shooting with size at 3, and 4. Whereas DeRozan averaged around 20 PPG in the playoffs.
Sullinger is not a fit - and he is going to cost big bucks as a free agent.
I would rather throw in 2 picks and get Derozan. Assuming he isn't available, I like the Tyreke idea,
Consider Tyreke an upgrade over Turner, pure and simple. Young is a throw in to make the salaries work. We have other guys who can shoot it, Tyreke would be more of a facilitator to team with Smart in a big backcourt or a point-forward type to go with 2 guards in a small ball lineup.
Consider it a way to upgrade talent level for the next 2 years and still protect major cap space in 2017. Pelicans dont have very many guaranteed contracts. They could use the depth and they could also use Sullinger next to Davis whenever Asik goes to the bench.
Ummm... I don't really care if hes an upgrade over Turner... I hope any player we're receiving from a packaged trade would be better than some of the players shipped out.. I don't get people's infatuation with Tyreke.
I like him, because hes a good, but nowhere near elite player. But hes a offensive specialist that desperately needs a floor spacer. The last thing we need is a SF that cannot shoot nor play defense. Trying to put him next to Smart, and Bradley just sounds like a disaster.
Fair points, but some thought:
1) Young at this point looks like a clear bust, and I have zero interest in wasting a roster space on him. I want him gone, and I'd rather see him used in a trade rather than waive him for nothing.
2) Sully doesn't have much value and probably never will. Even if he gets in shape this year and improves on his weaknesses (conditioning, shot selection, defense) everybody is going to point at the fact that it's a contact year...and worry that once he has a long term deal, he'll let himself slip again. I doubt we'll get a return on Sully any better than Tyreke.
3) Gallo is a one dimensional player - all he does is score, and he does that at a pretty inefficient rate. He's nor really any better defensively than Tyreke, he's older, he's less versatile, and he's horribly injury prone. Way too big a risk when compared with the (relatively modest) upside.
4) Derozan I agree with you, and he'd be my preference. But I think this thread question is asked based on the assumption that Derozan is not available.
5) Tyreke has been a 16 point - 20 point scorer his entire career, he can handle the ball, he can pass, he can rebound, he can play three positions, and he can create offense. We desperately need somebody who can do those things.
Turner offers similar versatility true, but but he's a career 10/5/3 guy, while Tyreke is a career 17/5/5 guy. Tyreke gets to the line at almost double the rate of Turner, and he'd instantly become a top 2 scoring option for us. Tyreke is not a small upgrade over Turner, he's a
major upgrade.
6) I don't see why Evans couldn't play alongside Bradley and/or Smart. Bradley has shot 40%, 39% and 36% from 3PT in three of his past four seasons. Smart shot 33% from three last season despite it being his rookie year, and despite a crazy high number of attempts. Both guys are more than capable of hitting the open three, and I felt both guys fared perfectly fine playing alongside Turner and Crowder (neither of whom are any better from three than Tyreke is).