And all this cap space might be overrated anyway... I still think Danny will have to build it through the trades, not FA signings.
I agree with this part, which is why I proposed the trade. The C's get no cap space out of this deal -- they in fact lose $2.8 million of it next season. I think Porter's upside is higher than KO's, which is why I would do it. Porter turned 22 last month. Being 21 in the NBA on a team that is trying to compete is tough. If he were consistent night in and night out, this idea would be idiotic from the Wizards perspective. But I do think he offers us more than Jones in the both the short run and long run.
Exactly - Porter may never pan out, but Ainge needs to start taking some chances and with so many 'good' young players, he actually has that luxury.
You look back at some of the names Ainge was targeting before they exploded - Curry, Cousins, etc, and you think, 'man, if he had just been willing to overpay back then, we would be ridiculous now.' The Warriors and Kings may never have been willing to part with those guys, but if we had any chance, it is unfortunate that we didn't give them whatever they wanted.
I like KO and Turner quite a bit and you could insert a number of other players in this deal to make it work (ie, Young and Sully or Rozier and Zeller) and I would still probably give it a shot.
that's how he ends up with Fab Melo.
Seriously, I'm sick of the Fab Melo line. It's so tired. We're entering the 4th year of that draft. Fab was picked 22nd -- let's look at picks 23-33 and see how much we missed on (and for the record, I'm the one guy on the board who advocated for Draymond Green with a first before the draft occurred, so don't even go there).
22. Fab Melo. The biggest bust in history apparently (but not even the worst pick of the draft thanks to Royce White).
23. John Jenkins -- barely played in Atlanta. Not brought back for year 4, just signed a minimum deal with Dallas.
24. Jared Cunningham -- barely played for Dallas, dumped to Atlanta who didn't pick up his year 3 option, and released him in the middle of year 2. Got a non-guaranteed minimum deal last year with LAC. Not currently in the NBA.
25. Tony Wroten -- Dumped by the Grizz to Philly after one year for a 2nd that didn't convey. Scoring for the Sixers, but in mediocre 2-point shooting and terrible (below 25% for his career) 3-point shooting.
26. Miles Plumlee -- on 3 teams in 3 seasons. A bench big in Milwaukee at age 26.
27. Arnett Moultrie -- dumped by the Sixers before his third year, after barely playing first two. Year 4 option not picked up.
28. Perry Jones III -- salary dumped to Celtics before year 4, C's get a future second and cash for their troubles.
29. Marquis Teague -- dumped by Bulls to Nets in year 2 to avoid luxury tax (ironic given the Nets tax bill) and then dumped with a second to the Sixers before year 3, and waived before season. Out of NBA.
30. Festus Ezeli -- barely played in year 1, blew out his knee in year 2. Started to look like he might be developing into a useful player by the end of year 3, but it'd be a stretch to say that's guaranteed improvement.
31. Jeff Taylor -- A sometime effective backup who then brutally beat his girlfriend. Now in Europe.
32. Tomas Satoransky -- the only name on this list I've never heard of. He's yet to come over from Europe. Maybe next year, but I bet if he does come over it won't be with Washington.
33. Bernard James -- backup big with Dalls for three years. Currently a UFA and unsigned.
There's really no one in that list to cry over. Was Melo a risky pick? Sort of, but what was the opportunity lost? At best you can say Festus Ezeli, who's really done very little in three NBA seasons and turns 26 in October.
So yeah, all of this has virtually nothing to do with Otto Porter, who's done more is his NBA career than Melo and all the players listed above combines, even if he hasn't done all that much. And that's not to say he isn't a risk, because Olynyk and Turner have indeed performed better to this point. But if it were guaranteed that Porter would outperform those two, the Wiz wouldn't do it. And the Wiz probably won't, but this is the type of trade I'd hope for -- consolidating two useful players at areas of depth into one potentially more useful player at an area of need.
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