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Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« on: July 21, 2015, 03:43:16 PM »

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Rich Levine has an article suggesting that Jimmy Butler could become available. 

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/celtics-quick-fix-might-be-running-bulls

I think it's a pipe dream and don't see why the Bulls would give up a top young talent and go into rebuilding mode when they were probably the second best team in the East last year.

Still, assuming next season doesn't go well for the Bulls and they decide to rebuild (Butler can't be traded till July anyway), what do people think of this:

Celtics get:  Jimmy Butler

Bulls get:  Avery Bradley, Jared Sullinger, James Young, Jae Crowder and 2 first round picks.

Why the Celtics do it:  They get the top talent in the trade, fill a few needs (young superstar talent and 2 way player at the 3) and, assuming Smart develops, now are 1 piece away from being a special team.

Why the Bulls do it:  They likely wouldn't unless circumstances forced them to rebuild (like Gasol gets injured and Rose continues not to be healthy).  At that point, maybe they go into rebuild mode and get a bunch of young interesting pieces and picks.

Celtics Rotation:

PG:  Smart, Turner, Rozier

SG:  IT, Hunter

SF:  Butler, Jerbeko, Jones

PF:  Johnson, KO

C:  Lee, Zeller, Mickey





Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2015, 03:55:29 PM »

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Rich Levine has an article suggesting that Jimmy Butler could become available. 

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/celtics-quick-fix-might-be-running-bulls

I think it's a pipe dream and don't see why the Bulls would give up a top young talent and go into rebuilding mode when they were probably the second best team in the East last year.

Still, assuming next season doesn't go well for the Bulls and they decide to rebuild (Butler can't be traded till July anyway), what do people think of this:

Celtics get:  Jimmy Butler

Bulls get:  Avery Bradley, Jared Sullinger, James Young, Jae Crowder and 2 first round picks.

Why the Celtics do it:  They get the top talent in the trade, fill a few needs (young superstar talent and 2 way player at the 3) and, assuming Smart develops, now are 1 piece away from being a special team.

Why the Bulls do it:  They likely wouldn't unless circumstances forced them to rebuild (like Gasol gets injured and Rose continues not to be healthy).  At that point, maybe they go into rebuild mode and get a bunch of young interesting pieces and picks.

Celtics Rotation:

PG:  Smart, Turner, Rozier

SG:  IT, Hunter

SF:  Butler, Jerbeko, Jones

PF:  Johnson, KO

C:  Lee, Zeller, Mickey

You're right its a pipe dream, and that offer isn't anywhere near close to what the Bulls would consider for Butler.

At best we would have to include Zeller, IT, and Mickey with maybe 1 extra first round pick on top of that. Also if Butler requested a trade to the Celtics, Crowder should be the only person on our team that Butler would require to be on the team since their very good and close friends, (I heard best?)
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Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 03:59:27 PM »

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I think what struck me as faulty in the proposal was that if there was any player in Chicago that they'd want to rebuild around, it'd be Butler.  I would think the rest of the roster would be fair game with the thinking either Chicago would load up on young talent and/or picks to try to build around Butler while unloading the higher-paid/injury-riddled vets they have.

Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 04:05:23 PM »

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Absolutely terrible article.  Guy should be ashamed for putting something like this out there. 
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Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 04:07:48 PM »

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If you are saying Butler cannot be traded until July of 2016 then why would we even talk about it now. And by July of next year isn't Sully a restricted free agent. It would need to be a sign and trade, etc. Too far out at this time with a whole season ahead to even think about.

Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 04:14:48 PM »

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Yeah if Chicago decides to re-build the last person they are giving up is Butler.

I'm also sure Chicago is going to give their squad atleast one more year before they do anything drastic with their team.

Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2015, 04:16:47 PM »

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It's a hack article.
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Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2015, 04:29:05 PM »

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I think what struck me as faulty in the proposal was that if there was any player in Chicago that they'd want to rebuild around, it'd be Butler.  I would think the rest of the roster would be fair game with the thinking either Chicago would load up on young talent and/or picks to try to build around Butler while unloading the higher-paid/injury-riddled vets they have.

Yup, the only reason they would ever have to trade Butler would be if Rose's knees are suddenly perfectly healthy, he returns to pre-ACL tear form, AND the rumors of him and Butler not getting along are actually UNDERSTATING the true situation.

In other words, it's never gonna happen.
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Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2015, 04:52:12 PM »

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Sorry.  I meant January -- not July.  I agree with all the comments that this is never going to happen.  Still, since we likely will be in a holding pattern for awhile, it's better speculating than doing nothing.

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2015, 04:59:42 PM »

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Absolutely terrible article.  Guy should be ashamed for putting something like this out there.

Yeah, Levine really embarrassing himself here.

Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2015, 05:29:15 PM »

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Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2015, 02:24:36 PM »

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I think what struck me as faulty in the proposal was that if there was any player in Chicago that they'd want to rebuild around, it'd be Butler.  I would think the rest of the roster would be fair game with the thinking either Chicago would load up on young talent and/or picks to try to build around Butler while unloading the higher-paid/injury-riddled vets they have.
The thing is, if Chicago is really going to go into full bore rebuilding Jimmy Butler is the player on the team that would give them the most return and it isn't close.  He is the one guy that virtually every team in the league would want AND provide good value for, which would only increase the return for Chicago.  If Rose, Gasol, Noah, and Gibson are healthy they would draw interest and would provide a solid return (to varying degrees obviously), but Butler could yield them an A+ return.  He is also locked up long term at max money, which isn't necessarily what a rebuilding team would want in an All Star, but not a Super Star (he would be the guy that could get you 5 to 10 wins a year, but not the 15 to 20 you would need to be a real solid team). 

I think the article is silly since he just signed a max contract, but the premise of trading Butler isn't nearly as far fetched as you make it seem. 
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Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2015, 02:28:42 PM »

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Rich Levine has an article suggesting that Jimmy Butler could become available. 

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/celtics-quick-fix-might-be-running-bulls

I think it's a pipe dream and don't see why the Bulls would give up a top young talent and go into rebuilding mode when they were probably the second best team in the East last year.

Still, assuming next season doesn't go well for the Bulls and they decide to rebuild (Butler can't be traded till July anyway), what do people think of this:

Celtics get:  Jimmy Butler

Bulls get:  Avery Bradley, Jared Sullinger, James Young, Jae Crowder and 2 first round picks.

Why the Celtics do it:  They get the top talent in the trade, fill a few needs (young superstar talent and 2 way player at the 3) and, assuming Smart develops, now are 1 piece away from being a special team.

Why the Bulls do it:  They likely wouldn't unless circumstances forced them to rebuild (like Gasol gets injured and Rose continues not to be healthy).  At that point, maybe they go into rebuild mode and get a bunch of young interesting pieces and picks.

Celtics Rotation:

PG:  Smart, Turner, Rozier

SG:  IT, Hunter

SF:  Butler, Jerbeko, Jones

PF:  Johnson, KO

C:  Lee, Zeller, Mickey

You're right its a pipe dream, and that offer isn't anywhere near close to what the Bulls would consider for Butler.

At best we would have to include Zeller, IT, and Mickey with maybe 1 extra first round pick on top of that. Also if Butler requested a trade to the Celtics, Crowder should be the only person on our team that Butler would require to be on the team since their very good and close friends, (I heard best?)

That would make sense, they played together at Marquette.
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Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2015, 02:29:04 PM »

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Absolutely terrible article.  Guy should be ashamed for putting something like this out there.

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Re: Article: Celtics could pursue Jimmy Butler
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2015, 02:42:15 PM »

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Lot of venom toward a late-July article on here. I think it makes good points:

- Everyone is penciling Chicago in as an eastern conference favorite.
- Rose and Butler didn't play well together.
- Jimmy considered Boston and would like to be the man.
- Noah and Gasol never played well together, both are old.
- Hoiberg is unproven.

Lots could happen with this Bulls team. Is this really that badly written of an article? What was anyone hoping for in reading this?
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