Embiid rebroke foot , wil miss next season too !

[LarBrd33]

Hinkie was clearly lying.

For what purpose?

[colincb]

Hinkie was clearly lying.

For what purpose?

Because he can. There's a certain arrogance to him. There are people who lie for no rational reason. He's misled people before. There's no need to comment on anything you don't want to talk about with the media.

[LarBrd33]

Hinkie was clearly lying.

For what purpose?

Because he can. There's a certain arrogance to him. There are people who lie for no rational reason. He's misled people before. There's no need to comment on anything you don't want to talk about with the media.

It just seems really odd... why would Embiid and his people be ok with Hinkie lying about Embiid's injury?  It just seems so unnecessary.  What was gained by it?  If his navicular bone truly did re-break (unconfirmed), and they claimed it didn't... and yet a couple weeks later they announce he needs season ending surgery... what was gained by lying about it?  It makes no sense.   If it was a re-break, why not mention it? 

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Off topic, but is anyone sneaky-curious about whether Saric will ever actually come over to the NBA or not?

He basically has to choose between being a superhero in Europe or taking a pay cut to come to the NBA only to play on a team that's probably even worse than his old team that has no intention of winning.

Of course, this all changes if the Sixers rebuild progresses well and they become an up-and-coming young team; but I think Saric coming can only be the result of the Sixers making significant progress first, not the other way around.

He wanted to come over this year. And please stop with the his old team is better than an NBA team nonsense. That's like the Kentucky could compete argument, and it's silly.

He'll be over in 16 or 17. He says 16, but I doubt it.

[oldtype]

Off topic, but is anyone sneaky-curious about whether Saric will ever actually come over to the NBA or not?

He basically has to choose between being a superhero in Europe or taking a pay cut to come to the NBA only to play on a team that's probably even worse than his old team that has no intention of winning.

Of course, this all changes if the Sixers rebuild progresses well and they become an up-and-coming young team; but I think Saric coming can only be the result of the Sixers making significant progress first, not the other way around.

He wanted to come over this year. And please stop with the his old team is better than an NBA team nonsense. That's like the Kentucky could compete argument, and it's silly.

He'll be over in 16 or 17. He says 16, but I doubt it.

Anadolu Efes is one of the best teams in one of the world's best professional leagues. They are currently ranked 7th in all of Europe. They're nowhere near the same level as a college team and I'm pretty sure they'd be at least comparable to the Sixers.

I can't read his mind, but he's making a lot of money and playing for a top team in Europe. If he comes over at any time before 2017-18, he has to come on the NBA rookie scale. I don't know if he wants to do that unless he's sure the Sixers can contend immediately.

[celticsclay]

Off topic, but is anyone sneaky-curious about whether Saric will ever actually come over to the NBA or not?

He basically has to choose between being a superhero in Europe or taking a pay cut to come to the NBA only to play on a team that's probably even worse than his old team that has no intention of winning.

Of course, this all changes if the Sixers rebuild progresses well and they become an up-and-coming young team; but I think Saric coming can only be the result of the Sixers making significant progress first, not the other way around.

He wanted to come over this year. And please stop with the his old team is better than an NBA team nonsense. That's like the Kentucky could compete argument, and it's silly.

He'll be over in 16 or 17. He says 16, but I doubt it.

Anadolu Efes is one of the best teams in one of the world's best professional leagues. They are currently ranked 7th in all of Europe. They're nowhere near the same level as a college team and I'm pretty sure they'd be at least comparable to the Sixers.

I can't read his mind, but he's making a lot of money and playing for a top team in Europe. If he comes over at any time before 2017-18, he has to come on the NBA rookie scale. I don't know if he wants to do that unless he's sure the Sixers can contend immediately.

does anyone remember why that player the magic drafted about 8 years ago never came over?

[ederson]

Are you talking about Lior Eliyahu?

He got a nice 4 year contract with Caja Laboral in Spain.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Off topic, but is anyone sneaky-curious about whether Saric will ever actually come over to the NBA or not?

He basically has to choose between being a superhero in Europe or taking a pay cut to come to the NBA only to play on a team that's probably even worse than his old team that has no intention of winning.

Of course, this all changes if the Sixers rebuild progresses well and they become an up-and-coming young team; but I think Saric coming can only be the result of the Sixers making significant progress first, not the other way around.

He wanted to come over this year. And please stop with the his old team is better than an NBA team nonsense. That's like the Kentucky could compete argument, and it's silly.

He'll be over in 16 or 17. He says 16, but I doubt it.

Anadolu Efes is one of the best teams in one of the world's best professional leagues. They are currently ranked 7th in all of Europe. They're nowhere near the same level as a college team and I'm pretty sure they'd be at least comparable to the Sixers.

I can't read his mind, but he's making a lot of money and playing for a top team in Europe. If he comes over at any time before 2017-18, he has to come on the NBA rookie scale. I don't know if he wants to do that unless he's sure the Sixers can contend immediately.

They're not even close to the level of an NBA team, if they came to the NBA they'd get run out of the gym. But yes, they're definitely a tier above college. Even if the Sixers and really any NBA team would wipe the floor with them. Their 2nd best player was a 2nd round draft pick, it's not even comparable.

He says he wants to come to the NBA next year, I still think monetarily it makes more sense in 2017-18.

There's nothing substantiating him never coming over. At all. It makes no sense financially(he's not taking a pay cut, the NBA pays the highest salaries in the world), and there's no news on it aside from you making something up and acting like it has substance.

[D.o.s.]

I think the smart money would expect Saric to eventually make his NBA debut.

[celticsclay]

Would Saric still have been selected 12th if it was 100% known that he would not get paid at all on the rookie salary cap? I feel like Mirotic was drafted lower because that was more expected despite mirotic being a better prospect.

[celticsclay]

Larbrd and Dos debating Embiid, the good old times are back! Glad to have you fellas back around.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Off topic, but is anyone sneaky-curious about whether Saric will ever actually come over to the NBA or not?

He basically has to choose between being a superhero in Europe or taking a pay cut to come to the NBA only to play on a team that's probably even worse than his old team that has no intention of winning.

Of course, this all changes if the Sixers rebuild progresses well and they become an up-and-coming young team; but I think Saric coming can only be the result of the Sixers making significant progress first, not the other way around.

He wanted to come over this year. And please stop with the his old team is better than an NBA team nonsense. That's like the Kentucky could compete argument, and it's silly.

He'll be over in 16 or 17. He says 16, but I doubt it.

Anadolu Efes is one of the best teams in one of the world's best professional leagues. They are currently ranked 7th in all of Europe. They're nowhere near the same level as a college team and I'm pretty sure they'd be at least comparable to the Sixers.

I can't read his mind, but he's making a lot of money and playing for a top team in Europe. If he comes over at any time before 2017-18, he has to come on the NBA rookie scale. I don't know if he wants to do that unless he's sure the Sixers can contend immediately.

And just for some context on how ridiculous that entire first paragraph was.

Jan Vesely started in the Turkish League All-Star Game last year.

[D.o.s.]

Nice to 'see' you too.

Would Saric still have been selected 12th if it was 100% known that he would not get paid at all on the rookie salary cap? I feel like Mirotic was drafted lower because that was more expected despite mirotic being a better prospect.

I don't believe anyone thought that he was ever going to join the NBA on a rookie-scale contract. He signed a three year deal with Anadolu Efes right before the draft, like two or three days before the draft, after all, and in fact that contract (three years 20 million euro, I believe) was the reason he  fell out of the top 10, if I remember correctly.

[oldtype]

Off topic, but is anyone sneaky-curious about whether Saric will ever actually come over to the NBA or not?

He basically has to choose between being a superhero in Europe or taking a pay cut to come to the NBA only to play on a team that's probably even worse than his old team that has no intention of winning.

Of course, this all changes if the Sixers rebuild progresses well and they become an up-and-coming young team; but I think Saric coming can only be the result of the Sixers making significant progress first, not the other way around.

He wanted to come over this year. And please stop with the his old team is better than an NBA team nonsense. That's like the Kentucky could compete argument, and it's silly.

He'll be over in 16 or 17. He says 16, but I doubt it.

Anadolu Efes is one of the best teams in one of the world's best professional leagues. They are currently ranked 7th in all of Europe. They're nowhere near the same level as a college team and I'm pretty sure they'd be at least comparable to the Sixers.

I can't read his mind, but he's making a lot of money and playing for a top team in Europe. If he comes over at any time before 2017-18, he has to come on the NBA rookie scale. I don't know if he wants to do that unless he's sure the Sixers can contend immediately.

They're not even close to the level of an NBA team, if they came to the NBA they'd get run out of the gym. But yes, they're definitely a tier above college. Even if the Sixers and really any NBA team would wipe the floor with them. Their 2nd best player was a 2nd round draft pick, it's not even comparable.

He says he wants to come to the NBA next year, I still think monetarily it makes more sense in 2017-18.

There's nothing substantiating him never coming over. At all. It makes no sense financially(he's not taking a pay cut, the NBA pays the highest salaries in the world), and there's no news on it aside from you making something up and acting like it has substance.

I said I was sneaky-curious. I can't read his mind. I don't know what will happen.

I think he'll come over eventually, but there's clearly no incentive to do so at any point before 17-18 given the money and the fact that the Sixers will be terrible.

[Moranis]

Nice to 'see' you too.

Would Saric still have been selected 12th if it was 100% known that he would not get paid at all on the rookie salary cap? I feel like Mirotic was drafted lower because that was more expected despite mirotic being a better prospect.

I don't believe anyone thought that he was ever going to join the NBA on a rookie-scale contract. He signed a three year deal with Anadolu Efes right before the draft, like two or three days before the draft, after all, and in fact that contract (three years 20 million euro, I believe) was the reason he  fell out of the top 10, if I remember correctly.

I think the Sixers thought he wouldn't see that last year and thus will come over next summer.  Wouldn't be surprised if he rides out the full 3 years though.