So..Euros.
Do they count on my roster? can we hold players' rights?
Yes they count toward the 16 rostered players
Hmm.
Posted this on the yahoo board as well:
The way I understand it, if I want to retain a players' rights that I drafted (in fairness, eja drafted, because I'm a forgetful idiot), and that player waits a few years to come over to the NBA, I have to keep him rostered as one of my active players.
Can we change this to just make it, if they're playing in the NBA, they're playing in the CBPL, if they're not, then they can be retained without costing a roster spot?
I would say this type of rule would need to be proposed pre draft
I understand the reasoning there. If I would've known it were a rule, I would've brought it up.
As I said on Yahoo --- it's been proposed a fair amount, and fails each time. [I could be confusing the other league, but I don't think so].
We've always had the current rule, and I think it's a good rule. If you are into the player enough (as I was with Mirotic for 2+ years), you keep an open roster spot. If the player isn't that important, you drop (or don't draft him).
That's just my 2 cents.
I guess I don't really see the upside here. Why not allow teams to invest in Euros? Why make them keep a guy rostered?
IIRC, IP i think the 2 issues at play here are:
1. The rule has been thus historically (guys like Saric, Rubio, Mirotic to stay on roster to remain on your team) --- and teams have drafted, built teams accordingly. So any change would have to be for the next full cycle of adds.
Bleh. Yeah it probably does.
In a dynasty league like this "stashing euros" changes the use and value of draft picks for teams otherwise without room to add a drafted player.
How is that not a positive though? Its fun to speculate about how your Euros will fare when they come over.
2. More specifically the argument against stashing euros (which I've generally sided with) has been about (a) not increasing the work for the commish (who would have to track these non-roster guys)
I can say with a good amount of certainty that logging euro players is NOT a big deal. I'll even do it. One spreadsheet, one audit before cuts, bada-bing. Done.
(b) making for tough rosters decisions on guys like Mirotic, Saric, etc. and (c) not thinning out the waiver pool on the years these guys enter the league --- guys like Datome and Papinikolou are availble as waiver wire adds
Well this I have the biggest problem with.
1) Why should the waiver wire have great options to start the season?
-If its about getting in new talent while old talent leaves, shouldn't the draft pretty much cover that?
2) The only teams that will really benefit are the teams who finished at the top of the league anyways, and in a lot of years as currently constructed, the waiver wire situation will be worth MORE than any 2nd round pick.
I dunno, whatever. I really disagree with this rule, but I only encountered it because I forgot about the draft, so take from that what you will.
I do think it should be changed though. Its a fun new facet to the game, especially for teams that take a longer-view rebuild approach.