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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2015, 02:33:42 PM »

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I feel bad for the guy. He is a talented player. It really feels like the C's dodged a bullet here. Many were hoping he would fall to the C's. I certainly did. This sets back Hinkie's strategy another season at least. Yikes

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2015, 02:35:20 PM »

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I thank the 76ers for not trading the third pick to us.  Danny would of taken that 3rd pick and prob given the 16th (rozier) on top of 6th (smart)

Embiid = Oden career.   They got lucky that Noel has turned out to be healthy, but not with Embiid.

Why? We would have been trading for Okafor at 3, not Embiid.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2015, 02:40:14 PM »

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Eddie, the ceo of the 76ers flat out admits that:

#1, he's looked incredible in workouts,
#2, he's felt no pain,
#3, he hasn't re-injured anything,
#4, it simply hasn't healed as quickly as they hoped,
#5, his long term health is a priority (they don't want to rush him back and have him reinjure something like durant did)
#6, he hasn't been ruled out of summer league
#7, they are bringing in 3 doctors to get more opnions
#8, they understand that people like you are always going to jump to the worst conclusion
#9, he's sidelined right now

Add all that up and its pretty darn clear what is happening here.  Embiid feels fine and is ready to go.  The team has expected him to play summer league for months.  Now that summer league is around the corner, they see that embiid's injury hasn't met a milestone.  In reading about the injury it sounds like at this stage they likely are looking at the soft tissue around the bone.  In reading about the injury, it sounds like at some point the only thing you can do is back off and give it rest.  They likely want to get every expert opinion they can so they have a clear idea of the risk associated with letting embiid play at 99.9%.  Does he need to sit out summer league or not?  Does he need to rest for a month ?  What's his chances of re injury if he is green lit this month?  Understand that embiid is the face of that franchise and if he pans out like everyone expects, he alone could increase the value of that franchise by over 200 million.  There is a lot at stake here and they do NOT want to repeat the mistakes made with guys like Oden.

Naturally, all of these "sky is falling" embiid articles add their own shock media opinions. "Maybe he will be oden. Maybe this is Bynum again. Omg bill Walton and Yao Ming, mmiright?  He COULD miss the whole season. His whole leg COULD fall off.   This COULD result in a basketball holocaust".

You are quoting careless worst case scenario opinions by writers looking for clicks.  In their defense, you can't really have an article about embiid's "set back" without informing readers of why that could be concerning. This thread itself isn't half as interesting without the potential for a basketball train wreck. The stuff you bolded has not come from anyone in the Philly organization.  We are well aware of why people are concerned... Greg oden reinjured himself multiple times.  Scary words like "set back" can mean all sorts of stuff.  But based on the facts right now, the fears are pretty baseless.  There clearly was always risk involved in taking embiid... Hence why the top prospect fell to 3rd.  I see no reason to be more alarmed now than we were then.  Perhaps the doctors will come in and say "omg guys you botched his surgery.  Re-do it".  Maybe they Will come in saying, "omg you guys, we know he's been dominant in workouts lately but these ct results prove he will never be healthy. You might as well just cut him, bros".  But that doesn't seem in line with what is actually happening right now.  But feel free to keep cutting and pasting scary opinion commentary from people that are just rehashing the same ol "injured big man" storyline.

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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2015, 02:43:50 PM »

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Welp, it looks like the circle jerk is proceeding nicely. I think I'll leave the thread before I get any on my monitor.

I mean, we could go through and look at all the posts about how Rondo was going to come back and be just fine which, in hindsight, look significantly dumber. All it proves is that none of us can see the future.
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« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2015, 02:45:35 PM »

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Interesting read on the nature of navicular injuries and NBA players who have had them.  Even MJ had one.  Ilgauskas was a success story, going on to a 15 year NBA career.

http://instreetclothes.com/2014/06/19/breaking-joel-embiids-navicular-fracture/

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« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2015, 02:46:01 PM »

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I thank the 76ers for not trading the third pick to us.  Danny would of taken that 3rd pick and prob given the 16th (rozier) on top of 6th (smart)

Embiid = Oden career.   They got lucky that Noel has turned out to be healthy, but not with Embiid.

Why? We would have been trading for Okafor at 3, not Embiid.

Think he's referring to trying to trade for the Sixers pick last year by giving up our no 6 pick from last year and our 1st rounder from this year.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2015, 02:47:00 PM »

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Welp, it looks like the circle jerk is proceeding nicely. I think I'll leave the thread before I get any on my monitor.

I mean, we could go through and look at all the posts about how Rondo was going to come back and be just fine which, in hindsight, look significantly dumber. All it proves is that none of us can see the future.


Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2015, 02:48:43 PM »

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easier to type than "self-congratulatory cycle of backslapping from a series of posters who seem to do nothing but seek validation over someone else's incorrect opinion/forecast -- a forecast given prior to the newest developments."

Sorry if it offended your delicate sensibilities... although I'd point out that '[dang]' is prohibited language on CB.  :P


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« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2015, 02:52:35 PM »

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I think it's hilarious how Larbrd33 gets some of you guys riled up so easily. Very fun to read
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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2015, 02:54:04 PM »

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Welp, it looks like the circle jerk is proceeding nicely. I think I'll leave the thread before I get any on my monitor.

I mean, we could go through and look at all the posts about how Rondo was going to come back and be just fine which, in hindsight, look significantly dumber. All it proves is that none of us can see the future.

Some just act like they do.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2015, 02:55:28 PM »

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Welp, it looks like the circle jerk is proceeding nicely. I think I'll leave the thread before I get any on my monitor.

I mean, we could go through and look at all the posts about how Rondo was going to come back and be just fine which, in hindsight, look significantly dumber. All it proves is that none of us can see the future.

Some just act like they do.

Yeah but dude you, in particular, act this way all the time. You did it with Tim per Rondo, you did it with Triboy on Aaron Gordon (or something), and you do it with LB on Embiid.

The common denominator here should be fairly easy to spot.
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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2015, 02:56:06 PM »

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I feel terrible for Embiid, but yeah, screw the Sixers. What they've been doing has been horrible for the NBA and the Philly fans (I can't believe I just defended them). I'm glad Joel got paid b/c I think he's done. At least Oden played a little in the NBA - Embiid didn't even last a full college season w/o a serious injury.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2015, 02:56:50 PM »

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easier to type than "self-congratulatory cycle of backslapping from a series of posters who seem to do nothing but seek validation over someone else's incorrect opinion/forecast -- a forecast given prior to the newest developments."

Sorry if it offended your delicate sensibilities... although I'd point out that '[dang]' is prohibited language on CD.  :P


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I'm fairly certain that "circle jerk" is worse than that gif lol

And nobody's feelings got hurt. The gif was an attempt at humor. You should know by now that I'm not all that concerned with political correctness.  ;) We're all just taking pleasure in the fact that a serial contrarian (almost to the point of trolling) is so majorly wrong in an argument that he argued for vehemently. Nothing against the guy; I generally enjoy my arguments with him.
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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2015, 03:04:02 PM »

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There is nothing more fun than telling LB he's wrong. That's a fact. The creepiness lies in the harping, to my mind.

Also, 'circle jerk' is pretty common slang for an echo chamber, I'm surprised you didn't know that.
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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2015, 03:04:34 PM »

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I believe a healthy Greg Oden would have been the best center in the league for the past half dozen years.  I believe a healthy Embiid would be the best center in the league very soon and for probably a decade.  As a basketball fan, this sucks.  We are not going to be able to watch the two most talented centers to come along since Shaq.