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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2015, 02:01:27 PM »

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I had a feeling this news was coming. Very sorry to hear Embiid won't be playing this year. I'm just glad the Cs didn't trade Smart and everything else we have for him.
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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2015, 02:04:48 PM »

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I put on my nice face but ultimately, I'm with Mike.  They should change the rules to not encourage tanking in any way though because it is awful and the current lottery system is stupid.  The system can suck one most of all.

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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2015, 02:06:41 PM »

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Even though Okafor/Noel is a better pairing than say Okafor/Embiid, I still don't think that pairing works together. Neither player can stretch the floor much, which creates spacing issues on offense. Also, stretch fours will be a problem for them to guard, because it would force Noel out farther on the perimeter, taking him away from his bread-and-butter of paint protection and leaving Okafor there instead. I think they're both 5's that can't play the 4 spot for major stretches, and they eventually have to trade one of them away.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2015, 02:06:53 PM »

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Best case scenario = Yao Ming or possibly Ilgauskas   Worst case scenario = Isaiah Austin  Likely scenario = G Oden, but he has some catching up to do big time.

Can't wait for LarBrd33 to explain this is all part of the plan and the team is just being overcautious.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2015, 02:08:31 PM »

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Smart may end up being the third best player in the draft, which is where the sixers took Embiid.

Above Dante Exum and Aaron Gordon?  :o


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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2015, 02:13:18 PM »

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Smart may end up being the third best player in the draft, which is where the sixers took Embiid.

Above Dante Exum and Aaron Gordon?  :o
I think so but it's probably still too early to know. Exum did show a ton of potential in that summer league game.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2015, 02:13:24 PM »

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Crappy news for Embiid, he had the highest ceiling in that draft last year, stinks when injuries get in the way.  Glad the C's ended up with Smart last year....

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2015, 02:17:07 PM »

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Greg Oden...

well greg oden atleast played nearly one season.
Embiid looks like out of the league before it even started.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2015, 02:17:30 PM »

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It's only a small delay.  He is really fine.  They are just being overly cautious :P  What a bunch of crap from the Celticsblog medical experts.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2015, 02:19:16 PM »

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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2015, 02:19:59 PM »

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Eddie, the ceo of the 76ers flat out admits that:

#1, he's looked incredible in workouts,
#2, he's felt no pain,
#3, he hasn't re-injured anything,
#4, it simply hasn't healed as quickly as they hoped,
#5, his long term health is a priority (they don't want to rush him back and have him reinjure something like durant did)
#6, he hasn't been ruled out of summer league
#7, they are bringing in 3 doctors to get more opnions
#8, they understand that people like you are always going to jump to the worst conclusion
#9, he's sidelined right now

Add all that up and its pretty darn clear what is happening here.  Embiid feels fine and is ready to go.  The team has expected him to play summer league for months.  Now that summer league is around the corner, they see that embiid's injury hasn't met a milestone.  In reading about the injury it sounds like at this stage they likely are looking at the soft tissue around the bone.  In reading about the injury, it sounds like at some point the only thing you can do is back off and give it rest.  They likely want to get every expert opinion they can so they have a clear idea of the risk associated with letting embiid play at 99.9%.  Does he need to sit out summer league or not?  Does he need to rest for a month ?  What's his chances of re injury if he is green lit this month?  Understand that embiid is the face of that franchise and if he pans out like everyone expects, he alone could increase the value of that franchise by over 200 million.  There is a lot at stake here and they do NOT want to repeat the mistakes made with guys like Oden.

Naturally, all of these "sky is falling" embiid articles add their own shock media opinions. "Maybe he will be oden. Maybe this is Bynum again. Omg bill Walton and Yao Ming, mmiright?  He COULD miss the whole season. His whole leg COULD fall off.   This COULD result in a basketball holocaust".

You are quoting careless worst case scenario opinions by writers looking for clicks.  In their defense, you can't really have an article about embiid's "set back" without informing readers of why that could be concerning. This thread itself isn't half as interesting without the potential for a basketball train wreck. The stuff you bolded has not come from anyone in the Philly organization.  We are well aware of why people are concerned... Greg oden reinjured himself multiple times.  Scary words like "set back" can mean all sorts of stuff.  But based on the facts right now, the fears are pretty baseless.  There clearly was always risk involved in taking embiid... Hence why the top prospect fell to 3rd.  I see no reason to be more alarmed now than we were then.  Perhaps the doctors will come in and say "omg guys you botched his surgery.  Re-do it".  Maybe they Will come in saying, "omg you guys, we know he's been dominant in workouts lately but these ct results prove he will never be healthy. You might as well just cut him, bros".  But that doesn't seem in line with what is actually happening right now.  But feel free to keep cutting and pasting scary opinion commentary from people that are just rehashing the same ol "injured big man" storyline.

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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2015, 02:20:16 PM »

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Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2015, 02:29:40 PM »

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feel bad for Embiid but not the Sixers.  should serve as further proof to the tanking proponents why putting your all your eggs in the "suck as much as possible" basket are running a significant risk those eggs get cracked.

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2015, 02:31:37 PM »

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I thank the 76ers for not trading the third pick to us.  Danny would of taken that 3rd pick and prob given the 16th (rozier) on top of 6th (smart)

Embiid = Oden career.   They got lucky that Noel has turned out to be healthy, but not with Embiid. 

Re: Joel Embiid Likely Out for the Season, Will Have Second Surgery
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2015, 02:31:41 PM »

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Eddie, the ceo of the 76ers flat out admits that:

#1, he's looked incredible in workouts,
#2, he's felt no pain,
#3, he hasn't re-injured anything,
#4, it simply hasn't healed as quickly as they hoped,
#5, his long term health is a priority (they don't want to rush him back and have him reinjure something like durant did)
#6, he hasn't been ruled out of summer league
#7, they are bringing in 3 doctors to get more opnions
#8, they understand that people like you are always going to jump to the worst conclusion
#9, he's sidelined right now

Add all that up and its pretty darn clear what is happening here.  Embiid feels fine and is ready to go.  The team has expected him to play summer league for months.  Now that summer league is around the corner, they see that embiid's injury hasn't met a milestone.  In reading about the injury it sounds like at this stage they likely are looking at the soft tissue around the bone.  In reading about the injury, it sounds like at some point the only thing you can do is back off and give it rest.  They likely want to get every expert opinion they can so they have a clear idea of the risk associated with letting embiid play at 99.9%.  Does he need to sit out summer league or not?  Does he need to rest for a month ?  What's his chances of re injury if he is green lit this month?  Understand that embiid is the face of that franchise and if he pans out like everyone expects, he alone could increase the value of that franchise by over 200 million.  There is a lot at stake here and they do NOT want to repeat the mistakes made with guys like Oden.

Naturally, all of these "sky is falling" embiid articles add their own shock media opinions. "Maybe he will be oden. Maybe this is Bynum again. Omg bill Walton and Yao Ming, mmiright?  He COULD miss the whole season. His whole leg COULD fall off.   This COULD result in a basketball holocaust".

You are quoting careless worst case scenario opinions by writers looking for clicks.  In their defense, you can't really have an article about embiid's "set back" without informing readers of why that could be concerning. This thread itself isn't half as interesting without the potential for a basketball train wreck. The stuff you bolded has not come from anyone in the Philly organization.  We are well aware of why people are concerned... Greg oden reinjured himself multiple times.  Scary words like "set back" can mean all sorts of stuff.  But based on the facts right now, the fears are pretty baseless.  There clearly was always risk involved in taking embiid... Hence why the top prospect fell to 3rd.  I see no reason to be more alarmed now than we were then.  Perhaps the doctors will come in and say "omg guys you botched his surgery.  Re-do it".  Maybe they Will come in saying, "omg you guys, we know he's been dominant in workouts lately but these ct results prove he will never be healthy. You might as well just cut him, bros".  But that doesn't seem in line with what is actually happening right now.  But feel free to keep cutting and pasting scary opinion commentary from people that are just rehashing the same ol "injured big man" storyline.

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