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Why dont the Mavs trade for Pecovic?
« on: July 10, 2015, 12:38:09 PM »

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Forget about Zaza. Get a slightly above average center in Nikola Pecovic from Minnesota. He would play great with Dirk and the Wolves can make way for Towns. Any thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2015, 12:38:52 PM »

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If the Mavericks are looking for someone to cover for Dirk and the rest of their roster on defense Pek isn't the guy they want.
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Re: Why dont the Mavs trade for Pecovic?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2015, 12:43:03 PM »

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Acquiring Martin and Pek could, in theory, keep the Mavs afloat in the middle of the league for another year.

Problem is, both guys struggle mightily on defense and are frequently injured.  Not really shoring up the Mavs' weaknesses.


Imagine if the Mavs weren't constantly trading away their draft picks and younger players, what would that look like?

What if they had kept Crowder, Wright, Aminu?  What if they had kept Zeller instead of trading him on draft night?  What if they had put more effort into developing guys like Roddy Beaubois and Jared Cunningham?

The Mavs are paying the price for always trying to overturn their roster and chase after major free agents instead of trying to organically develop a supporting cast.
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Re: Why dont the Mavs trade for Pecovic?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2015, 12:46:25 PM »

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Better off tanking than finishing 10th-14th and losing the draft pick.

Dallas making moves but they are not good enough to get themselves back into the playoffs. Neither is this one. Improves them but not enough.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2015, 12:53:40 PM »

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Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 12:38:09 PM
Forget about Zaza. Get a slightly above average center in Nikola Pecovic from Minnesota. He would play great with Dirk and the Wolves can make way for Towns. Any thoughts?

Why would anyone want to do that?  Pecovik makes over 12 million and has only played 47, 62,54 and 31 games in each of the last 4 years.  He's a walking injury.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2015, 01:07:33 PM »

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Because when healthy he is easily a top 10 center in the league
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2015, 01:13:53 PM »

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Quote from: Who on July 10, 2015, 12:46:25 PM
Better off tanking than finishing 10th-14th and losing the draft pick.

Dallas making moves but they are not good enough to get themselves back into the playoffs. Neither is this one. Improves them but not enough.
I don't think that is quite true.  This was discussed in other threads, but there really are only 7 clear cut teams better than Dallas in the west - GS, MEM, SAS, LAC, HOU, OKC, NO.  That 8th spot is really up for grabs.
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Re: Why dont the Mavs trade for Pecovic?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2015, 01:15:08 PM »

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Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:07:33 PM
Because when healthy he is easily a top 10 center in the league

Um.

Just out of curiosity, could you make a top 15 list for centers? I'm curious as to see who grades out where.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2015, 01:21:42 PM »

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Quote from: Moranis on July 10, 2015, 01:13:53 PM
Quote from: Who on July 10, 2015, 12:46:25 PM
Better off tanking than finishing 10th-14th and losing the draft pick.

Dallas making moves but they are not good enough to get themselves back into the playoffs. Neither is this one. Improves them but not enough.
I don't think that is quite true.  This was discussed in other threads, but there really are only 7 clear cut teams better than Dallas in the west - GS, MEM, SAS, LAC, HOU, OKC, NO.  That 8th spot is really up for grabs.

I have Utah and Phoenix ahead of Dallas too (along with those other teams you noted above).

That has Dallas 10th in the West (at best).
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2015, 01:33:47 PM »

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Quote from: D.o.s. on July 10, 2015, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:07:33 PM
Because when healthy he is easily a top 10 center in the league

Um.

Just out of curiosity, could you make a top 15 list for centers? I'm curious as to see who grades out where.

Howard Cousins Lopez Gortat Drummond Gasol Jordan Noah Jefferson

You could make a case of chandler or pekovic for 10. I don't consider tim Duncan a center
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2015, 01:37:49 PM »

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Quote from: Who on July 10, 2015, 12:46:25 PM
Better off tanking than finishing 10th-14th and losing the draft pick.

Dallas making moves but they are not good enough to get themselves back into the playoffs. Neither is this one. Improves them but not enough.

I agree with you, but despite what Cuban said when he thought DJ was signing with his team, I don't think Cuban has it in him to intentionally tank.
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2015, 01:39:00 PM »

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Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:33:47 PM
Quote from: D.o.s. on July 10, 2015, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:07:33 PM
Because when healthy he is easily a top 10 center in the league

Um.

Just out of curiosity, could you make a top 15 list for centers? I'm curious as to see who grades out where.

Howard Cousins Lopez Gortat Drummond Gasol Jordan Noah Jefferson

You could make a case of chandler or pekovic for 10. I don't consider tim Duncan a center

Rudy Gobert? I might even argue Mozgov. And Duncan has essentially played center while listed at PF for his entire career, now he's probably going to be listed as a center as well.
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Re: Why dont the Mavs trade for Pecovic?
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2015, 01:39:24 PM »

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Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:33:47 PM
Quote from: D.o.s. on July 10, 2015, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:07:33 PM
Because when healthy he is easily a top 10 center in the league

Um.

Just out of curiosity, could you make a top 15 list for centers? I'm curious as to see who grades out where.

Howard Cousins Lopez Gortat Drummond Gasol Jordan Noah Jefferson

You could make a case of chandler or pekovic for 10. I don't consider tim Duncan a center

Hmmm..

I got Cousins as the best center.

Cousins
Gasol
Howard
Jordan
Vucevic
Lopez
Jefferson
Drummond
Noah
Gortat

Honorable mentions would be like Hibbert if he can get his head screwed on right.

I don't consider Horford or Bosh centers, but if they were, they'd be around the 5-8th mark.
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Re: Why dont the Mavs trade for Pecovic?
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2015, 01:39:35 PM »

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Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:33:47 PM
Quote from: D.o.s. on July 10, 2015, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:07:33 PM
Because when healthy he is easily a top 10 center in the league

Um.

Just out of curiosity, could you make a top 15 list for centers? I'm curious as to see who grades out where.

Howard Cousins Lopez Gortat Drummond Gasol Jordan Noah Jefferson

You could make a case of chandler or pekovic for 10. I don't consider tim Duncan a center


I wouldn't consider Pekovic better than: Mozgov, Vucevic, Valanciunas, Gobert, Horford, Whiteside or Monroe.

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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2015, 02:02:55 PM »

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Quote from: Monkhouse on July 10, 2015, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:33:47 PM
Quote from: D.o.s. on July 10, 2015, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: garyp31 on July 10, 2015, 01:07:33 PM
Because when healthy he is easily a top 10 center in the league

Um.

Just out of curiosity, could you make a top 15 list for centers? I'm curious as to see who grades out where.

Howard Cousins Lopez Gortat Drummond Gasol Jordan Noah Jefferson

You could make a case of chandler or pekovic for 10. I don't consider tim Duncan a center

Hmmm..

I got Cousins as the best center.

Cousins
Gasol
Howard
Jordan
Vucevic
Lopez
Jefferson
Drummond
Noah
Gortat

Honorable mentions would be like Hibbert if he can get his head screwed on right.

I don't consider Horford or Bosh centers, but if they were, they'd be around the 5-8th mark.

Out of curiosity, how can we not call Horford a center now? He is there starting center, plays alongside Millsap at power forward for all of their significant minutes. They also just resigned Millsap for a few years so his role isn't going to change. He is also listed as a center. I don't really see where the debate starts?
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