Sully and KO

[droopdog7]

Can we stop talking about these two like they are the future (because of their age).  Neither is young and neither will magically transform into much more than they are already, which is serviceable NBA players that might crack the rotation on a quality team.

So whether it is Amir Johnson or David Lee or (insert quality veteran here), let's not lose sleep over how these two will be impacted.  The answer is, doesn't really matter too much.

[TheTruthFot18]

Can we stop talking about these two like they are the future (because of their age).  Neither is young and neither will magically transform into much more than they are already, which is serviceable NBA players that might crack the rotation on a quality team.

So whether it is Amir Johnson or David Lee or (insert quality veteran here), let's not lose sleep over how these two will be impacted.  The answer is, doesn't really matter too much.

23 and 24 isn't young? Are you 14? 

[droopdog7]

Can we stop talking about these two like they are the future (because of their age).  Neither is young and neither will magically transform into much more than they are already, which is serviceable NBA players that might crack the rotation on a quality team.

So whether it is Amir Johnson or David Lee or (insert quality veteran here), let's not lose sleep over how these two will be impacted.  The answer is, doesn't really matter too much.

23 and 24 isn't young? Are you 14? 

Most people use the term "young" to imply that a player has a lot of upside or room to grow.  In basketball terms, 23 and 24 are not young in that sense.  They've been playing basketball all their lives and by now we pretty much know what they are and are not.  So yeah, to me 23 and 24 isn't young.  They have come close to reaching their peak.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Worth mentioning that Sully and KO spent most of the 2014-2015 season as 22 and 23 years old respectively.

[positivitize]

LOL

[droopdog7]

LOL

Great to see some thought brought to the discussion.

[SHAQATTACK]

Will both be under pressure up,their game ....or sit on the bench .

[dreamgreen]

Can we stop talking about these two like they are the future (because of their age).  Neither is young and neither will magically transform into much more than they are already, which is serviceable NBA players that might crack the rotation on a quality team.

So whether it is Amir Johnson or David Lee or (insert quality veteran here), let's not lose sleep over how these two will be impacted.  The answer is, doesn't really matter too much.

23 and 24 isn't young? Are you 14? 

Most people use the term "young" to imply that a player has a lot of upside or room to grow.  In basketball terms, 23 and 24 are not young in that sense.  They've been playing basketball all their lives and by now we pretty much know what they are and are not.  So yeah, to me 23 and 24 isn't young.  They have come close to reaching their peak.

14? lol

I think anyone at that age can get much better, not saying they will but if they work at it they sure as hell will.

[PhoSita]

Hard to imagine at this point that the team sees all that much of a future in either guy, given the moves so far this off-season.

[max215]

I'm not a fan of either player, but the idea that guys in their early to mid twenties cannot improve is ludicrous.

[droopdog7]

Can we stop talking about these two like they are the future (because of their age).  Neither is young and neither will magically transform into much more than they are already, which is serviceable NBA players that might crack the rotation on a quality team.

So whether it is Amir Johnson or David Lee or (insert quality veteran here), let's not lose sleep over how these two will be impacted.  The answer is, doesn't really matter too much.

23 and 24 isn't young? Are you 14? 

Most people use the term "young" to imply that a player has a lot of upside or room to grow.  In basketball terms, 23 and 24 are not young in that sense.  They've been playing basketball all their lives and by now we pretty much know what they are and are not.  So yeah, to me 23 and 24 isn't young.  They have come close to reaching their peak.

14? lol

I think anyone at that age can get much better, not saying they will but if they work at it they sure as hell will.

Not saying they can't improve; just that they are pretty close to the finished product. 

And as for can and will, that's the rub.  Anything is possible but I am basing my thoughts on what is probable.  Just like people kept waiting for Rondo to improve his shooting, I predict those waiting for these two to make the jump will be sorely disappointed.

Now there is one wildcard in my mind.  Role players like these two are greatly impacted by what's around them.  If they are asked to play a specific role on a good team it is possible either could shine.  Doesn't mean they got better, just that the circumstances got better.

[Big333223]

Sullinger still seems like a guy, to me, that has a lot of potential. The more poised he gets, the better decisions he'll make but I do think he's got good instincts and can improve. If you want an example of a player who improved in big ways after the age of 24, look no further than David Lee.

Olynyk might be as good as he'll ever be but as he gets older he'll get smarter and if he winds up being an intelligent 12 point, 7 rebound player I'll take it.

[Celtics18]

They are both really solid young players.  Neither is a superstar, but that doesn't mean they aren't extremely talented.

My personal belief is that we should keep Kelly around and probably look to move Sully for a promising young wing. 

[Celtics18]

Can we stop talking about these two like they are the future (because of their age).  Neither is young and neither will magically transform into much more than they are already, which is serviceable NBA players that might crack the rotation on a quality team.

So whether it is Amir Johnson or David Lee or (insert quality veteran here), let's not lose sleep over how these two will be impacted.  The answer is, doesn't really matter too much.

I don't think anyone is talking about either of them like they are the future, but rather like they could be an important part of the future. 

[Celtics18]

Hard to imagine at this point that the team sees all that much of a future in either guy, given the moves so far this off-season.

I doubt that either Sully or Kelly will lose minutes to David Lee.  I expect Lee to play sparingly.  Probably a little more than Wallace, but not too much.