Since everyone loves to talk about this guy, I figured we can give the latest update. He is doing some practicing, has a positive attitude but is still limited and the organization hasn't decided what their next step is yet
http://www.csnphilly.com/basketball-philadelphia-76ers/joel-embiid-present-sixers-minicamp-practice-but-limited
This whole thing is getting pretty bizarre at this point. It seems like it would be useful for the 76ers to make a decision pretty soon. If he needs another surgery, then they should probably do that as soon as possible instead of waiting for two months to do it. It is not like this is a situation where they are waiting for swelling to go down to operate. They did the scan about a month ago, how long does it take this many doctors to make a decision on it?
My perception of it hasn't changed. He feels 100%. Scans show he's not 100%... So they are having him ease back activities and give it more time to heal so not to risk reinjury. He's also apparently grown to 7'2 since last year so maybe that has something to do with the "different" ct scan. I think if surgery was going to happen it would happen already. My guess is they are going to keep him out of summer league and let him get ready for the regular season 4 months from now.
I would have bet my car you would have typed this exact message.
He has a few go to sayings, which he often rotates depending on the situation
* Noel is a future star (yet has the offense of a Cauley-Stein...more on that below)
* Cauley-Stein is the next Biyombo (even though his game is exactly like Noel's)
* Sixers have 3 of the 6 best young big man prospects (using the word "prospects" is his way of saying they haven't done anything and filtering out Davis, Cousins, Drummond, etc. from the argument)
* Smart is a defensive role player (yet Noel is not)
* Celtics players are garbage and their picks worthless
LarBrd33 is right on this particular issue. I would honestly be surprised to see Embiid not suited up for the first game of next season. If he's healthy, I would bet my car he matures into a perennial All-Star.
I'm not denying that. However, the word IF is the most important thing in that statement. Had Walton not had foot injuries some think he would've been right up there with the best bigs of all-time (Russell, Kareem, Wilt, etc.). Oden and Bowie are others that had their careers cut short. If's are always part of the equation especially with a big like Embiid that just can't stay healthy.
2012-13...His HS coach said Embiid dealt with various injuries
2013-14...Suffers two stress fractures (Back and Foot)
2014-15...Misses season due to foot stress fracture
Summer 2015...Not healing as expected. Will miss summer league. Rumored to possibly need another surgery on foot.
His injury history isn't as easily dismissed as LarBrd33 likes to pretend it is. Especially when it comes to a big man. Especially when it's a player that hasn't even been playing basketball much (taking it up at a latter age). If he can't stay healthy from shortened HS and college seasons against boys and teens, how is he going to handle the long grueling seasons of NBA basketball against men?
Meh
Lets put it this way - at some point in last year's draft, I seem to recall Danny saying that he considered going after Embiid (can't remember if the idea was to trade up, of if this was before the lottery and before Danny knew what spot Boston would have) but when the Boston's doctors saw his medical history they red flagged him.
Yes I know it must be fun fabricating details in order to "win" arguments about Embiid's health, but for now I think it's best to just stick to facts.
The day after the draft, Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said in a radio interview that the team would, in fact, have taken Embiid had he been on the board when their pick came up. "Yes, we would have," Ainge said on The Sports Hub's "Toucher & Rich," via MassLive. "He was not red-flagged, meaning 'Stay away at all costs.' He was rated a little bit less than (he would have been) with (his injury) risk, but he was a guy that we were looking at, had he fallen."
Read more at: http://nesn.com/2014/06/danny-ainge-celtics-would-have-drafted-joel-embiid-at-no-6/
I'm getting bored with this.
If news comes out that Embiid is going to have another surgery, feel free to dance on Embiid's grave and create threads gloating about how wrong I am. Until then, he's innocent until proven guilty. On a scale of 1-10 of how concerned I am about Embiid's foot... I'm at a 1.5 ... and that's only because of the media hysteria. All the facts coming out aren't that exciting. Right now, all we know is that Embiid feels 100%, but the team is having him rest, because the CT scan doesn't show it 100% yet. Beyond that, it's speculation. My own opinion is speculation as well.. but it's based on what Philly's CEO, Hinkie, Bill Self and multiple "first-hand accounts" (from admittedly weak sources). And all of them seem to say that Embiid was playing basketball, looked amazing, and wants to be out there right now... but they are holding him out as a precaution and getting more opinions on what to do next. My perception of this situation is also based on what I've read about the navicular bone stress fractures in articles about Embiid and from medical professionals who have given their own speculation. Despite what eja said in the previous page, 4-6 months was always given as an optimistic estimate. From day 1, they said it could take up to a full year for it to fully heal for some athletes (by the way, eja and Eddie are fully aware of this). Had 4-6 months been definitive, we wouldn't have known from day 1 that Embiid was being kept out a full season (since 6 months would have been sometime in December... plenty of time for Embiid to play out the final 4 months of the season... and yet that was NEVER an option). It's been a full year as of a couple weeks ago. It's not fully healed. What does that mean? My interpretation of that is simple: According to multiple medical sources, that injury usually feels fully healed before it actually is fully healed. And that
could mean that some tissue around the bone that isn't filled in yet... which
could mean it's not as stable as they want and there's a fear of reinjury. I said "could mean", because I have no freakin idea what's actually going on with Embiid... and neither do any of the other people commenting on this thread. Nothing has been made public. We're all speculating. But it seems that most people here are speculating that Embiid's career is over... which just seems silly to me. Whereas my speculation is based on facts... others are basing their speculation on Greg Oden and media reports that he "could miss another season" and "could have another surgery". I'm sure they haven't ruled out anything right now. But from what I'm reading, the only reason they'd have surgery is if they were convinced that put Embiid in a better position long-term and if "surgery" resulted in
less risk of re-injury. That seems doubtful to me. I find it hard to believe that they'd say, "Joel, I know you're feeling ready to play basketball... but after speaking with doctors we've decided the best way to avoid re-injury is to surgically break your navicular bone again"... that seems illogical to me.
There could be more to this than we know... but to speculate on that would be to latching onto a conspiracy theory. From what we DO know, it appears the team will at some point need to make a decision about what percentage is "healed enough" to green light Embiid. Obviously they have decided to keep him out of summer league. Will they keep him out of the regular season? I doubt it very much.
Anyways... these threads are getting monotonous. Let's see if Embiid plays. Unless some new info comes out, this is just a bunch of rehashed nonsense. Yes, I'm aware that Greg Oden's career was destroyed by injures. Yes I'm aware that Blake Griffin's career wasn't destroyed by injures. Neat. Now that we got that history lesson out of the way, let's wait and see what happens with Embiid before we prematurely jump to conclusions.