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Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2015, 05:03:41 PM »

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I would just love to see him play some ball.
He has the talent and physical make up to be one of the greats.

It would be great for the NBA if this guy were healthy.

Apparently he's still growing and is now at 7'2" without shoes lol.

Regardless what you think of Philly, this guy would be so fun to watch develop on the court as a basketball fan.

I would agree with that, although at this point I would say the still growing part is more of a negative than a positive. Does he have Acromegaly? He is 21 not 18 so still growing in height is fairly unusual.
See David Robinson.
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Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2015, 05:10:12 PM »

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I would just love to see him play some ball.
He has the talent and physical make up to be one of the greats.

It would be great for the NBA if this guy were healthy.

Apparently he's still growing and is now at 7'2" without shoes lol.

Regardless what you think of Philly, this guy would be so fun to watch develop on the court as a basketball fan.

I would agree with that, although at this point I would say the still growing part is more of a negative than a positive. Does he have Acromegaly? He is 21 not 18 so still growing in height is fairly unusual.
See David Robinson.

I tried researching this (David Robinson), and the details are really vague. He grew while in the Navy but I can't really find anything that showed whether it was happening when he was 19 (much more common) or after he had turned 21.

Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2015, 05:22:58 PM »

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I would just love to see him play some ball.
He has the talent and physical make up to be one of the greats.

It would be great for the NBA if this guy were healthy.

Apparently he's still growing and is now at 7'2" without shoes lol.

Regardless what you think of Philly, this guy would be so fun to watch develop on the court as a basketball fan.

I would agree with that, although at this point I would say the still growing part is more of a negative than a positive. Does he have Acromegaly? He is 21 not 18 so still growing in height is fairly unusual.
See David Robinson.

I tried researching this (David Robinson), and the details are really vague. He grew while in the Navy but I can't really find anything that showed whether it was happening when he was 19 (much more common) or after he had turned 21.
Well he came into college at 6'8'' and left at 7'1''. We don't know exactly when he grew those extra 5 inches.
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Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2015, 05:46:48 PM »

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Since everyone loves to talk about this guy, I figured we can give the latest update. He is doing some practicing, has a positive attitude but is still limited and the organization hasn't decided what their next step is yet

http://www.csnphilly.com/basketball-philadelphia-76ers/joel-embiid-present-sixers-minicamp-practice-but-limited

This whole thing is getting pretty bizarre at this point. It seems like it would be useful for the 76ers to make a decision pretty soon. If he needs another surgery, then they should probably do that as soon as possible instead of waiting for two months to do it. It is not like this is a situation where they are waiting for swelling to go down to operate. They did the scan about a month ago, how long does it take this many doctors to make a decision on it?
My perception of it hasn't changed.  He feels 100%.   Scans show he's not 100%... So they are having him ease back activities and give it more time to heal so not to risk reinjury.  He's also apparently grown to 7'2 since last year so maybe that has something to do with the "different" ct scan.  I think if surgery was going to happen it would happen already.  My guess is they are going to keep him out of summer league and let him get ready for the regular season 4 months from now.

I would have bet my car you would have typed this exact message.

He has a few go to sayings, which he often rotates depending on the situation

* Noel is a future star (yet has the offense of a Cauley-Stein...more on that below)

* Cauley-Stein is the next Biyombo (even though his game is exactly like Noel's)

* Sixers have 3 of the 6 best young big man prospects (using the word "prospects" is his way of saying they haven't done anything and filtering out Davis, Cousins, Drummond, etc. from the argument)

* Smart is a defensive role player (yet Noel is not)

* Celtics players are garbage and their picks worthless


Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2015, 06:07:08 PM »

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I would just love to see him play some ball.
He has the talent and physical make up to be one of the greats.

It would be great for the NBA if this guy were healthy.

Apparently he's still growing and is now at 7'2" without shoes lol.

Regardless what you think of Philly, this guy would be so fun to watch develop on the court as a basketball fan.

I would agree with that, although at this point I would say the still growing part is more of a negative than a positive. Does he have Acromegaly? He is 21 not 18 so still growing in height is fairly unusual.
See David Robinson.

I tried researching this (David Robinson), and the details are really vague. He grew while in the Navy but I can't really find anything that showed whether it was happening when he was 19 (much more common) or after he had turned 21.
Well he came into college at 6'8'' and left at 7'1''. We don't know exactly when he grew those extra 5 inches.

A more recent example is Paul George.  He was listed at 6'8" or 6'9" when he was drafted and grew to 6'10" by his second season.

Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2015, 06:10:32 PM »

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He is going to be another Greg Oden..no way I would pick him..thank goodnss Philly did instead of us
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Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2015, 06:17:20 PM »

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I would just love to see him play some ball.
He has the talent and physical make up to be one of the greats.

It would be great for the NBA if this guy were healthy.

Apparently he's still growing and is now at 7'2" without shoes lol.

Regardless what you think of Philly, this guy would be so fun to watch develop on the court as a basketball fan.

I would agree with that, although at this point I would say the still growing part is more of a negative than a positive. Does he have Acromegaly? He is 21 not 18 so still growing in height is fairly unusual.
See David Robinson.

I tried researching this (David Robinson), and the details are really vague. He grew while in the Navy but I can't really find anything that showed whether it was happening when he was 19 (much more common) or after he had turned 21.
Well he came into college at 6'8'' and left at 7'1''. We don't know exactly when he grew those extra 5 inches.

A more recent example is Paul George.  He was listed at 6'8" or 6'9" when he was drafted and grew to 6'10" by his second season.

Good find. However, it is kind of funny when we are debating if super late growth can increase chances of injury/be a bad thing to raise a guy coming back off a broken leg  ;D

Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2015, 06:20:52 PM »

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Since everyone loves to talk about this guy, I figured we can give the latest update. He is doing some practicing, has a positive attitude but is still limited and the organization hasn't decided what their next step is yet

http://www.csnphilly.com/basketball-philadelphia-76ers/joel-embiid-present-sixers-minicamp-practice-but-limited

This whole thing is getting pretty bizarre at this point. It seems like it would be useful for the 76ers to make a decision pretty soon. If he needs another surgery, then they should probably do that as soon as possible instead of waiting for two months to do it. It is not like this is a situation where they are waiting for swelling to go down to operate. They did the scan about a month ago, how long does it take this many doctors to make a decision on it?
My perception of it hasn't changed.  He feels 100%.   Scans show he's not 100%... So they are having him ease back activities and give it more time to heal so not to risk reinjury.  He's also apparently grown to 7'2 since last year so maybe that has something to do with the "different" ct scan.  I think if surgery was going to happen it would happen already.  My guess is they are going to keep him out of summer league and let him get ready for the regular season 4 months from now.

I would have bet my car you would have typed this exact message.

He has a few go to sayings, which he often rotates depending on the situation

* Noel is a future star (yet has the offense of a Cauley-Stein...more on that below)

* Cauley-Stein is the next Biyombo (even though his game is exactly like Noel's)

* Sixers have 3 of the 6 best young big man prospects (using the word "prospects" is his way of saying they haven't done anything and filtering out Davis, Cousins, Drummond, etc. from the argument)

* Smart is a defensive role player (yet Noel is not)

* Celtics players are garbage and their picks worthless
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Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2015, 06:24:03 PM »

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I would just love to see him play some ball.
He has the talent and physical make up to be one of the greats.

It would be great for the NBA if this guy were healthy.

Apparently he's still growing and is now at 7'2" without shoes lol.

Regardless what you think of Philly, this guy would be so fun to watch develop on the court as a basketball fan.

I would agree with that, although at this point I would say the still growing part is more of a negative than a positive. Does he have Acromegaly? He is 21 not 18 so still growing in height is fairly unusual.
See David Robinson.

I tried researching this (David Robinson), and the details are really vague. He grew while in the Navy but I can't really find anything that showed whether it was happening when he was 19 (much more common) or after he had turned 21.
Slight growth at 21 may be uncommon but it is no reason to project it to be a very rare health condition.  It is probably not surprising considering where he started from a few years ago. 


Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2015, 06:29:31 PM »

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I would just love to see him play some ball.
He has the talent and physical make up to be one of the greats.

It would be great for the NBA if this guy were healthy.

Apparently he's still growing and is now at 7'2" without shoes lol.

Regardless what you think of Philly, this guy would be so fun to watch develop on the court as a basketball fan.

I would agree with that, although at this point I would say the still growing part is more of a negative than a positive. Does he have Acromegaly? He is 21 not 18 so still growing in height is fairly unusual.
See David Robinson.

I tried researching this (David Robinson), and the details are really vague. He grew while in the Navy but I can't really find anything that showed whether it was happening when he was 19 (much more common) or after he had turned 21.
Slight growth at 21 may be uncommon but it is no reason to project it to be a very rare health condition.  It is probably not surprising considering where he started from a few years ago. 



these photos scare the crap out of me as a guy that would like to see him play. This added bulk could very well be why he is having trouble healing and the injury problems. If he has put on 60 pounds in 2 years  (along with height growth) like these photos suggest ligaments and joints have a ton of stress on them.

Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2015, 06:35:05 PM »

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Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2015, 06:40:03 PM »

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Since everyone loves to talk about this guy, I figured we can give the latest update. He is doing some practicing, has a positive attitude but is still limited and the organization hasn't decided what their next step is yet

http://www.csnphilly.com/basketball-philadelphia-76ers/joel-embiid-present-sixers-minicamp-practice-but-limited

This whole thing is getting pretty bizarre at this point. It seems like it would be useful for the 76ers to make a decision pretty soon. If he needs another surgery, then they should probably do that as soon as possible instead of waiting for two months to do it. It is not like this is a situation where they are waiting for swelling to go down to operate. They did the scan about a month ago, how long does it take this many doctors to make a decision on it?
My perception of it hasn't changed.  He feels 100%.   Scans show he's not 100%... So they are having him ease back activities and give it more time to heal so not to risk reinjury.  He's also apparently grown to 7'2 since last year so maybe that has something to do with the "different" ct scan.  I think if surgery was going to happen it would happen already.  My guess is they are going to keep him out of summer league and let him get ready for the regular season 4 months from now.

I would have bet my car you would have typed this exact message.

He has a few go to sayings, which he often rotates depending on the situation

* Noel is a future star (yet has the offense of a Cauley-Stein...more on that below)

* Cauley-Stein is the next Biyombo (even though his game is exactly like Noel's)

* Sixers have 3 of the 6 best young big man prospects (using the word "prospects" is his way of saying they haven't done anything and filtering out Davis, Cousins, Drummond, etc. from the argument)

* Smart is a defensive role player (yet Noel is not)

* Celtics players are garbage and their picks worthless

LarBrd33 is right on this particular issue. I would honestly be surprised to see Embiid not suited up for the first game of next season. If he's healthy, I would bet my car he matures into a perennial All-Star.


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Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2015, 06:43:33 PM »

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I would just love to see him play some ball.
He has the talent and physical make up to be one of the greats.

It would be great for the NBA if this guy were healthy.

Apparently he's still growing and is now at 7'2" without shoes lol.

Regardless what you think of Philly, this guy would be so fun to watch develop on the court as a basketball fan.

I would agree with that, although at this point I would say the still growing part is more of a negative than a positive. Does he have Acromegaly? He is 21 not 18 so still growing in height is fairly unusual.
See David Robinson.

I tried researching this (David Robinson), and the details are really vague. He grew while in the Navy but I can't really find anything that showed whether it was happening when he was 19 (much more common) or after he had turned 21.
Slight growth at 21 may be uncommon but it is no reason to project it to be a very rare health condition.  It is probably not surprising considering where he started from a few years ago. 



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Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2015, 06:54:33 PM »

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Since everyone loves to talk about this guy, I figured we can give the latest update. He is doing some practicing, has a positive attitude but is still limited and the organization hasn't decided what their next step is yet

http://www.csnphilly.com/basketball-philadelphia-76ers/joel-embiid-present-sixers-minicamp-practice-but-limited

This whole thing is getting pretty bizarre at this point. It seems like it would be useful for the 76ers to make a decision pretty soon. If he needs another surgery, then they should probably do that as soon as possible instead of waiting for two months to do it. It is not like this is a situation where they are waiting for swelling to go down to operate. They did the scan about a month ago, how long does it take this many doctors to make a decision on it?
My perception of it hasn't changed.  He feels 100%.   Scans show he's not 100%... So they are having him ease back activities and give it more time to heal so not to risk reinjury.  He's also apparently grown to 7'2 since last year so maybe that has something to do with the "different" ct scan.  I think if surgery was going to happen it would happen already.  My guess is they are going to keep him out of summer league and let him get ready for the regular season 4 months from now.

I would have bet my car you would have typed this exact message.

He has a few go to sayings, which he often rotates depending on the situation

* Noel is a future star (yet has the offense of a Cauley-Stein...more on that below)

* Cauley-Stein is the next Biyombo (even though his game is exactly like Noel's)

* Sixers have 3 of the 6 best young big man prospects (using the word "prospects" is his way of saying they haven't done anything and filtering out Davis, Cousins, Drummond, etc. from the argument)

* Smart is a defensive role player (yet Noel is not)

* Celtics players are garbage and their picks worthless

LarBrd33 is right on this particular issue. I would honestly be surprised to see Embiid not suited up for the first game of next season. If he's healthy, I would bet my car he matures into a perennial All-Star.

I'm not denying that. However, the word IF is the most important thing in that statement. Had Walton not had foot injuries some think he would've been right up there with the best bigs of all-time (Russell, Kareem, Wilt, etc.). Oden and Bowie are others that had their careers cut short. If's are always part of the equation especially with a big like Embiid that just can't stay healthy.

2012-13...His HS coach said Embiid dealt with various injuries
2013-14...Suffers two stress fractures (Back and Foot)
2014-15...Misses season due to foot stress fracture
Summer 2015...Not healing as expected. Will miss summer league. Rumored to possibly need another surgery on foot.

His injury history isn't as easily dismissed as LarBrd33 likes to pretend it is. Especially when it comes to a big man. Especially when it's a player that hasn't even been playing basketball much (taking it up at a latter age). If he can't stay healthy from shortened HS and college seasons against boys and teens, how is he going to handle the long grueling seasons of NBA basketball against men?

Re: Another non-update update on Embiid
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2015, 07:00:13 PM »

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I would just love to see him play some ball.
He has the talent and physical make up to be one of the greats.

It would be great for the NBA if this guy were healthy.

Apparently he's still growing and is now at 7'2" without shoes lol.

Regardless what you think of Philly, this guy would be so fun to watch develop on the court as a basketball fan.

I would agree with that, although at this point I would say the still growing part is more of a negative than a positive. Does he have Acromegaly? He is 21 not 18 so still growing in height is fairly unusual.
See David Robinson.

I tried researching this (David Robinson), and the details are really vague. He grew while in the Navy but I can't really find anything that showed whether it was happening when he was 19 (much more common) or after he had turned 21.
Slight growth at 21 may be uncommon but it is no reason to project it to be a very rare health condition.  It is probably not surprising considering where he started from a few years ago. 



these photos scare the crap out of me as a guy that would like to see him play. This added bulk could very well be why he is having trouble healing and the injury problems. If he has put on 60 pounds in 2 years  (along with height growth) like these photos suggest ligaments and joints have a ton of stress on them.
Sixty pounds over a 2 or 3 year period isn't a big deal for a guy.  You do realize he's from Cameroon so his diet changed drastically when he came to the U.S.  You can also see the effects of the NBA strength training from 2014 to 2015.