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NBA Late bloomers
« on: July 06, 2015, 07:53:19 AM »

Offline LGC88

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That would be interesting to make a list here on the late bloomers.
Let's say players that had their breakout year during or after their 4th season being drafted.

- Jimmy Butler - Draft 2011 - allstar caliber 2014-15 (his third year shows improvements but he was still below average at the 3s (28%).
- Dale Ellis
- Hassan Whiteside - Draft 2010 - D-League player waived from nba after 2 seasons. Came back in 2014-15, posting 11.8pts/10rbd during the season.
- Tracy McGrady "I'd say took a while to get it together. It wasn't until his third year with the Raptors that he became above average, and it wasn't until he signed with the Magic that he became a superstar."
- Chauncey Billups "He was a decent player with Boston, Toronto, Denver, and his first year in Minnesota, but it wasn't until his 2nd year in Minny and then especially his time with Detroit that he proved he could be a very good player in this league."
- Ben Wallace : Become a beast defensively and a good offensive guy in his 5th year.
- Steve Nash : Drafted in 1996. His career really started 5 years later with a breakout offensively (points + assists). He then follow up with a MVP season in 2004-05.
- Anthony Mason "After 4 years of college, drafted in the 3rd round. Had to play overseas, in the CBA, and USBL while trying to make an NBA team. Cut by 3 NBA teams, only getting to play in 24 games over the 3 years after being drafted, until he was finally signed by the Knicks, four years after being a 3rd round pick.  From age 25-28 he now looked like a real quality NBA rotation player, even winning SMOY. Didn't become a full time starter until age 29, where he showed he had a really well rounded game.   Would eventually make an All-Star team, All-NBA and All-Defensive team appearance."
- DeMarre Carroll. "Not an all-star, but the jump is pretty impressive. The definition of journey men up until last season. He has never earned more than 3 mil per year in his career. Next contract - 60 mil."
- Jermaine O'Neal was drafted out of high school and averaged under 5 points/gm in his first 4 years in Portland. Then he went to Indiana and blossomed into an all-star.
- John Stockton "was a backup his first 3 years and never cracked 8 ppg. Sort of John Starks except he was never actually drafted.  But he broke out at 26 and made All-Star at 28."
- Mark Blount "was a nobody for his first 3 seasons in the league until he erupted into a 10/7 guy in 2004!"

I might update this post with your contribution, thanks.

 
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2015, 08:16:36 AM »

Offline BballTim

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Dale Ellis is generally the poster boy for this category.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2015, 08:20:46 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2015, 08:27:55 AM »

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Tracy McGrady I'd say took a while to get it together. It wasn't until his third year with the Raptors that he became above average, and it wasn't until he signed with the Magic that he became a superstar.
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I always think of Chauncey Billups (and he is used as an example on here quite a bit). He was a decent player with Boston, Toronto, Denver, and his first year in Minnesota, but it wasn't until his 2nd year in Minny and then especially his time with Detroit that he proved he could be a very good player in this league.

And, no, I don't regret trading him for Kenny Anderson. Anderson proved to be quite useful during a time we were looking to compete while Billups took more time.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2015, 08:51:52 AM »

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Quote from: BballTim on July 06, 2015, 08:16:36 AM

Dale Ellis is generally the poster boy for this category.

Any story on this player? Thanks
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2015, 09:02:27 AM »

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Steve Nash is my guy!

He had some pretty good years, but the MVP seasons came in his 9th and 10th season. 2004-05 is also the first year he can averaged more than 10 APG, but rarely missed the mark afterwards.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2015, 09:16:51 AM »

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Steve Nash for sure.

It's one thing for guys who went pro straight from high school or one-and-dones to take a few years to develop.  But Nash, after 4 years in college, in his 4th year in the NBA he was demoted from full time starter in Dallas to playing behind Erik Strickland and Robert Pack.

His best numbers were 9.1 ppg and 5.5 apg, and those weren't even in the same season.

He started off his career in Phoenix, and you could argue playing behind Jason Kidd and Kevin Johnson he just wasn't getting his chance to shine, he did put up nice per-36 numbers in year 2 behind those guys on playoff teams.  But then he gets shipped to Dallas, a perennial loser in the middle of a 10 year streak of being under .500, gets the chance to start, and his per-36 numbers drop, then he even drops behind Erik Strickland and Robert Pack in the rotation.

You'd never believe this 26 year old guy would go on to become a 2 time MVP, 8x All Star, and 7x All-NBA.
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2015, 09:35:34 AM »

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Anthony Mason is another one of my favorites.

After 4 years of college, drafted in the 3rd round.

Had to play overseas, in the CBA, and USBL while trying to make an NBA team.

Cut by 3 NBA teams, only getting to play in 24 games over the 3 years after being drafted, until he was finally signed by the Knicks, four years after being a 3rd round pick.  From age 25-28 he now looked like a real quality NBA rotation player, even winning SMOY.

Didn't become a full time starter until age 29, where he showed he had a really well rounded game.   Would eventually make an All-Star team, All-NBA and All-Defensive team appearance.

16.2 ppg, 11.4 rpg, 5.7 apg, 1.0 spg playing 43mpg was definitely a pretty sweet season for him in '97 at age 30.

RIP dude.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2015, 09:42:17 AM »

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Adding DeMarre Carroll. Not an all-star, but the jump is pretty impressive.

The definition of journey men up until last season. He has never earned more than 3 mil per year in his career. Next contract - 60 mil.

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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2015, 09:42:28 AM »

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Jermaine O'Neal was drafted out of high school and averaged under 5 points/gm in his first 4 years in Portland. Then he went to Indiana and blossomed into an all-star.
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Quote from: HomerSapien on July 06, 2015, 09:42:28 AM
Jermaine O'Neal was drafted out of high school and averaged under 5 points/gm in his first 4 years in Portland. Then he went to Indiana and blossomed into an all-star.
I remember a game in his 4th year with the blazers where he absolutely tore us up.
I thought "we've got to get this guy".
Alas, when we finally did he was to far gone.
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Notice almost all of those guys are athletes who skills developed.
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2015, 10:07:01 AM »

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John Stockton was a backup his first 3 years and never cracked 8 ppg.

Sort of John Starks except he was never actually drafted.  But he broke out at 26 and made All-Star at 28.
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