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Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2015, 08:57:10 AM »

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No weapon. I watched Iverson this year in Europe. He was an average player in an out-of-top-10 team. I just don't see him as NBA player at all. JaJuan Johnson would be better solution, but still just for an european team

Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2015, 09:09:11 AM »

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LOL, I see the Lakers making moves like they have a pulse. What exactly has DA done to get a rim protector this summer? Nothing, except to keep bringing Iverson out for the summer league.  ;D

Johnson? Mickey?

Did you see Kings get Koufos, and Lakers on the verge of getting Hibbert? Why have we been so docile  in getting a rim protector?
Because rim protector's are meaningless in the title picture unless said rim protector is also an offensive force and even those it has been awhile.  look at the last four champions: Golden State, San Antonio, Miami x2.  Duncan in his prime was a solid rim protector, but he wasn't that player any more for the title.  Golden State just won a title basically starting no one bigger than 6'7" (Bogut was at 1.7 blocks a game during the regular season so a pretty good rim protector, yet they put him on the bench and barely played him in the Finals, which pretty much says it all).  Miami's rim protector, Chris Bosh.  Going back further, Tyson Chandler blocked 1.1 shots per game during the regular season of Dallas' title year and upped to a massive 1.2 blocks in the post season.  Heck his career best is just 1.8 blocks a game and that was early in his career. 

Even historically the great rim protectors to win the title are guys like Shaq, Hakeem, Duncan (in his prime), Kareem, etc.  You know guys that will score 25+, grab 10+ rebounds, as well as block shots and protect the rim.  Ben Wallace is basically the only real exception and he was an all world defender in addition to being a great shot blocker.
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Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2015, 09:49:55 AM »

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Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2015, 10:23:07 AM »

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Do we have the rim protector everyone wants?

Depends on if Mickey is the man.  Colton I do not see being that fellow.
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Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2015, 10:27:12 AM »

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LOL, I see the Lakers making moves like they have a pulse. What exactly has DA done to get a rim protector this summer? Nothing, except to keep bringing Iverson out for the summer league.  ;D

Johnson? Mickey?

Did you see Kings get Koufos, and Lakers on the verge of getting Hibbert? Why have we been so docile  in getting a rim protector?
Because rim protector's are meaningless in the title picture unless said rim protector is also an offensive force and even those it has been awhile.  look at the last four champions: Golden State, San Antonio, Miami x2.  Duncan in his prime was a solid rim protector, but he wasn't that player any more for the title.  Golden State just won a title basically starting no one bigger than 6'7" (Bogut was at 1.7 blocks a game during the regular season so a pretty good rim protector, yet they put him on the bench and barely played him in the Finals, which pretty much says it all).  Miami's rim protector, Chris Bosh.  Going back further, Tyson Chandler blocked 1.1 shots per game during the regular season of Dallas' title year and upped to a massive 1.2 blocks in the post season.  Heck his career best is just 1.8 blocks a game and that was early in his career. 

Even historically the great rim protectors to win the title are guys like Shaq, Hakeem, Duncan (in his prime), Kareem, etc.  You know guys that will score 25+, grab 10+ rebounds, as well as block shots and protect the rim.  Ben Wallace is basically the only real exception and he was an all world defender in addition to being a great shot blocker.

The C's have expressly said this offseason that they want two-way players. I also see them as wanting to improve their athleticism in the frontcourt--hence Johnson, Mickey and resigning Jerebko.

KO IMO is a keeper, but he needs an athlete there next to him.

Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2015, 11:23:14 AM »

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LOL, I see the Lakers making moves like they have a pulse. What exactly has DA done to get a rim protector this summer? Nothing, except to keep bringing Iverson out for the summer league.  ;D

Johnson? Mickey?

Did you see Kings get Koufos, and Lakers on the verge of getting Hibbert? Why have we been so docile  in getting a rim protector?
Because rim protector's are meaningless in the title picture unless said rim protector is also an offensive force and even those it has been awhile.  look at the last four champions: Golden State, San Antonio, Miami x2.  Duncan in his prime was a solid rim protector, but he wasn't that player any more for the title.  Golden State just won a title basically starting no one bigger than 6'7" (Bogut was at 1.7 blocks a game during the regular season so a pretty good rim protector, yet they put him on the bench and barely played him in the Finals, which pretty much says it all).  Miami's rim protector, Chris Bosh.  Going back further, Tyson Chandler blocked 1.1 shots per game during the regular season of Dallas' title year and upped to a massive 1.2 blocks in the post season.  Heck his career best is just 1.8 blocks a game and that was early in his career. 

Even historically the great rim protectors to win the title are guys like Shaq, Hakeem, Duncan (in his prime), Kareem, etc.  You know guys that will score 25+, grab 10+ rebounds, as well as block shots and protect the rim.  Ben Wallace is basically the only real exception and he was an all world defender in addition to being a great shot blocker.
GSW would not have made it to the finals without Bogut. Duncan was 7th in the league this year at BPG and he was 5th last year....when they won the title....
But your right about no Legit 2 way BIG MEN anymore.

Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2015, 02:23:19 AM »

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LOL, I see the Lakers making moves like they have a pulse. What exactly has DA done to get a rim protector this summer? Nothing, except to keep bringing Iverson out for the summer league.  ;D

Johnson? Mickey?

Did you see Kings get Koufos, and Lakers on the verge of getting Hibbert? Why have we been so docile  in getting a rim protector?
Because rim protector's are meaningless in the title picture unless said rim protector is also an offensive force and even those it has been awhile.  look at the last four champions: Golden State, San Antonio, Miami x2.  Duncan in his prime was a solid rim protector, but he wasn't that player any more for the title.  Golden State just won a title basically starting no one bigger than 6'7" (Bogut was at 1.7 blocks a game during the regular season so a pretty good rim protector, yet they put him on the bench and barely played him in the Finals, which pretty much says it all).  Miami's rim protector, Chris Bosh.  Going back further, Tyson Chandler blocked 1.1 shots per game during the regular season of Dallas' title year and upped to a massive 1.2 blocks in the post season.  Heck his career best is just 1.8 blocks a game and that was early in his career. 

Even historically the great rim protectors to win the title are guys like Shaq, Hakeem, Duncan (in his prime), Kareem, etc.  You know guys that will score 25+, grab 10+ rebounds, as well as block shots and protect the rim.  Ben Wallace is basically the only real exception and he was an all world defender in addition to being a great shot blocker.
GSW would not have made it to the finals without Bogut. Duncan was 7th in the league this year at BPG and he was 5th last year....when they won the title....
But your right about no Legit 2 way BIG MEN anymore.

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Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2015, 03:10:36 AM »

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If this was the correct Iverson, Allen Iverson of 2002, then yes.


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Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2015, 05:25:31 AM »

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he flew back to Europe!  ???

Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2015, 07:23:45 AM »

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Yeah

That secret weapon

Backfired

And destroyed the Celtics post and rebounding game last night ,,letting those two lumbering nothings of Utah dominate the paint.

Typical Ainge team with lack of big men or size .  SMH

Even LeBron needs A big man to be successful

I don't understand why a Danny refuses to use assets and hire a center ....if he is not tanking .....then the Celtics need centers , not guards.

Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2015, 07:32:10 AM »

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Yeah

That secret weapon

Backfired

And destroyed the Celtics post and rebounding game last night ,,letting those two lumbering nothings of Utah dominate the paint.

Typical Ainge team with lack of big men or size .  SMH

Even LeBron needs A big man to be successful

I don't understand why a Danny refuses to use assets and hire a center ....if he is not tanking .....then the Celtics need centers , not guards.

I mean, you know Iverson wasn't on the team, right?  Anyway, it's summer league.  The Celtics young bigs are too experienced to play in it, and no big with any potential is going to waste their time suiting up for a team they have no chance of making.  Iverson himself, who isn't great shakes, decided it wasn't worth his time and injury risk.

You should be watching the summer league for our backcourt, and you shouldn't look at the score.  If you watch our frontcourt, of course you'll be disappointed, but only one of those players (Mickey) even has a chance to be a Celtic -- the other bigs might as well be guys from the rec league down the street.

Summer league is like watching minor-league spring training baseball teams.  It has no bearing on how your team is going to play the next year, unless you're Philly and your entire roster is filled with summer leaguers.

Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2015, 08:32:42 AM »

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LOL, I see the Lakers making moves like they have a pulse. What exactly has DA done to get a rim protector this summer? Nothing, except to keep bringing Iverson out for the summer league.  ;D

Johnson? Mickey?

Did you see Kings get Koufos, and Lakers on the verge of getting Hibbert? Why have we been so docile  in getting a rim protector?
Because rim protector's are meaningless in the title picture unless said rim protector is also an offensive force and even those it has been awhile.  look at the last four champions: Golden State, San Antonio, Miami x2.  Duncan in his prime was a solid rim protector, but he wasn't that player any more for the title.  Golden State just won a title basically starting no one bigger than 6'7" (Bogut was at 1.7 blocks a game during the regular season so a pretty good rim protector, yet they put him on the bench and barely played him in the Finals, which pretty much says it all).  Miami's rim protector, Chris Bosh.  Going back further, Tyson Chandler blocked 1.1 shots per game during the regular season of Dallas' title year and upped to a massive 1.2 blocks in the post season.  Heck his career best is just 1.8 blocks a game and that was early in his career. 

Even historically the great rim protectors to win the title are guys like Shaq, Hakeem, Duncan (in his prime), Kareem, etc.  You know guys that will score 25+, grab 10+ rebounds, as well as block shots and protect the rim.  Ben Wallace is basically the only real exception and he was an all world defender in addition to being a great shot blocker.


I'm starting to really hate the term Rim Protector. BUT I will say I think it's not the same thing as just being a shot blocker. Some guys block more shots but don't really keep guys away from the rim otherwise. Some guys are always in the right place and alter shots/protect the paint but might not average more than 1bpg.

I'm happy if the C's get a long defensive center. I couldn't care less if he averaged 3bpg. Marc Gasol only averages 1.6 btw.

Re: Colton Iverson, is this DA's secret weapon?
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2015, 10:55:53 AM »

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Went back to europe to remain a secret from other teams.  ;D